$300, What Hardtail Frame?

[Chakalaka Rider]

Here's what I am looking for:

-Must be below $370 after tax
-Brand new, not used
-Good for dirtjump/street/urban etc.
-If has BMX bb the final price must have enough to cover a bb reducer
-Must have rear disc mount
-1 1/8" headtube size
-Size small or medium (14" +/-)

And I've found these:
-2003 Norco 4 hun ($300 after tax I heard) + Axiom bb reducer ($40??)
-Kuwahara Matrix II ($300 +/-)

If the price on the 4 hun is right, then it's most likely I'll get that. But I also want to hear you guys' opinions and suggestions.

Eric

[NickS]

Id say the Kuwhara matrix its steel and basically a .243 but cheaper look ata ll the people who ride .243 and love them.

[ronald55555]

would u be interested in this? 300 no tax.
http://www.pinkbike.com/modules/photo/?op=view&image=65270
frame only

but the 2 frames you posted are both great choices.
the 4hun is a proven frame and is covered by norco warranty
the Matrix seems good, it looks like a 243, but i dont know if the quality or material is as good, and i dont know about the warranty

[Chakalaka Rider]

Originally posted by ronald55555
would u be interested in this? 300 no tax.
http://www.pinkbike.com/modules/photo/?op=view&image=65270
frame only


Nah it's okay I am looking for new frames only so there's warrenty. Your frame looks good, though.

Originally posted by NickS
Id say the Kuwhara matrix its steel and basically a .243 but cheaper look ata ll the people who ride .243 and love them.

Originally posted by ronald55555
but the 2 frames you posted are both great choices.
the 4hun is a proven frame and is covered by norco warranty
the Matrix seems good, it looks like a 243, but i dont know if the quality or material is as good, and i dont know about the warranty

Yeah exactly, the Matrix II seems good but not sure about the materials and welding quality. The 4 hun looks good too and the square tubing seems to be working well. Does anyone know the exact price of the 2003 Norco 4 hun frame? Or the One25? They are exactly the same right? Also what bike shop can I get the best deals on Norco frame (Norco 4 hun/One25 frame)? and Axiom parts (bb reducer) in Greater Vancouver area?

[Jake the Trog]

identiti 666?

[Chakalaka Rider]

Originally posted by HuMbEr JaNGerEd
identiti 666?

I like that frame. But how much and where to get them? I couldn't find any shops in Canada that carries them.

[Chakalaka Rider]

That CroMoly frame is more than $500 CND! Too much for me.

[Action Hero]

250cc - Norco, 314 for the frame.

[Chakalaka Rider]

Originally posted by Action Hero
250cc - Norco, 314 for the frame.

New or used?

[Action Hero]

New

[Keefer]

I was a fan of the Kuwie when I had mine set up. It's a nice ride. And if you're paying $300 for one, it's too much. try and get a deal somewhere, should find it for about $225 no problems.

[Chakalaka Rider]

Originally posted by Action Hero
New

Norco 250cc for $314??? You mean the RAD tubing one (2001)? Or are you talking about the 2003 Norco Two50 (4130 CroMoly)?

[Chakalaka Rider]

Originally posted by Keefer
I was a fan of the Kuwie when I had mine set up. It's a nice ride. And if you're paying $300 for one, it's too much. try and get a deal somewhere, should find it for about $225 no problems.

That sounds good, so I'll have enough money to rebuild my shock too. Umm but compare that frame to the 2003 Norco 4 hun, and 2003 Norco Two50, which is better (strength, geometry, materials, warrenty, etc.)?

If the 2001 Norco 250cc is $314 brand new then I'd get that one.

[Blue]

DMR DMR DMR DMR DMR DMR DMR DMR...realy good deals...;)

[Action Hero]

Originally posted by Chakalaka Rider
That sounds good, so I'll have enough money to rebuild my shock too. Umm but compare that frame to the 2003 Norco 4 hun, and 2003 Norco Two50, which is better (strength, geometry, materials, warrenty, etc.)?

If the 2001 Norco 250cc is $314 brand new then I'd get that one.

2002 was $314 brand new, I don't know if the 2003 250 is but the 1 hun frame most likely would be around $314.

[Keefer]

I have heard DMR's are weak. Just because I have heard about things, gives me the right to talk shit about them on the internet.

I liked the geometry of the Kuwahara, with the limited experience I had with it. I liked the geometry of my 2002 4hun better, but thats cuz I was so used to it, having ridden it for a year and a half.
I dunno about the warrantee on the Kuwahara, but its distributed by Asama, in Richmond, so...
Strength; I think Cam was telling me one of the Meyer brothers in Tsawassen broke a 2002 250 in like, 3 months, and then had the Kuwahara for 6 months with no problems...

Of course, I haven't ridden either of those Norcos, so I can just give you a biased opinion.