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Lost Looper
07-20-2003, 09:44 PM
Does anyone else get the same feeling that this is a highly organized group of people and not just a bunch of junkies looking for their next hit. With the amount of bikes (and a lot of them have been specially modified by the owner as to be easily recognizable) don't you think that more of them or their pieces would be seen on trails or in shops? I think these bikes are being scoped on the mountains and then trailed to the owners houses. There may just be a list of addresses of known mountain bikers with bikes ripe for the picking, and they are just going down the list...What happens to the bikes after that? Back East possibly, shipped overseas even...doubt they are going to the states cause everything is checked at the border now. What do you guys think? :mad:




Dude
07-20-2003, 09:50 PM
I doubt it. Not enough $$$ for something so sophisticated. Possibly a small group of guys / gals steals bikes on a regular basis.

But, what do I know...I haven't been hit yet.

xy9ine
07-20-2003, 09:55 PM
makes sense that there is some sort of export involved - lots of easily identifiable high-end bikes have dissapeared from the lower mainland in the last while. i had a letoy stolen from langley in december - never recovered. not many polished letoys out there...

couch@nsmb.com
07-20-2003, 09:57 PM
Bike teft is bigger than car theft. Last year the insurance companies paid out more in bike claims than car theft claims. It is huge dollars and it all seems to be very well organized. I hope the cops take it seriously.

Fast&Smooth
07-20-2003, 10:22 PM
hmmm it's a gone in 60 seconds gig with bikes eh?

sik
07-20-2003, 10:40 PM
dont have to hotwire bikes..

.glib
07-20-2003, 10:44 PM
Originally posted by couch@nsmb.com
Last year the insurance companies paid out more in bike claims than car theft claims.
If that's true, I can see this getting more publicity in the future. Companies don't like dealing out piles of cash when they don't have to! Big money means big influence.

white ri0t
07-20-2003, 10:58 PM
seriously.

get 10 guys together.

get bats.

plant a nice bike.

wait.

beat the piss outta someone who takes the bike, duct tape him, toss him in a van. You could use mine if I wasn't so far away. explain to him that this is how things will be with bike theives from now on, and for him to tell his friends. drop him off at the cop shop, and go out again for the next mofo.

just make sure to use phone books for the beating and to remove the duct tape before heading to the RCMP.

bokinator
07-20-2003, 11:05 PM
yeah, I was looking at the stolen gear's forum. I was amazed at how easily someone's bike can get stolen by a group of guys threatning you.

Makes me not want to go riding alone. :(

white ri0t
07-20-2003, 11:11 PM
Originally posted by bokinator
yeah, I was looking at the stolen gear's forum. I was amazed at how easily someone's bike can get stolen by a group of guys threatning you.

Makes me not want to go riding alone. :(

pack a kinfe, and explain to them that one of them will die if they steal your bike if it's the last thing you do. or velcro a big fucking bottle of pepper spray to your stem and let it rip.

speed metal
07-20-2003, 11:23 PM
Originally posted by couch@nsmb.com
Bike teft is bigger than car theft. Last year the insurance companies paid out more in bike claims than car theft claims. It is huge dollars and it all seems to be very well organized. I hope the cops take it seriously.

Really? Then why are the cops focusing on cars with their planted cars?

Mic
07-21-2003, 09:05 AM
Cause cars are everybody's darling and bikes...well, just recreational. :rolleyes:

Diggler - that's spozed to be meant seriously ???

nick1111
07-21-2003, 09:44 AM
I think car thefts are decreasing because it's becoming so difficult to steal a modern day car. Bike thefts are increasing because they are becoming so expensive.

ATN
07-21-2003, 09:52 AM
IMO, the best way to crack the rings would be to get together some unridable (worthless to us) but good looking bikes (cracks, broken dropouts, ovalized headsets, etc) and get the police to plant their tracking devices in one of the tubes. Drive around, leave 1-3 outside stores, chained to stop signs, etc, 5-7 in total, and watch where they end up.

Don't tell anyone about the transmitters (make the criminals think it was just good police work) and repeat.

corey@nsmb.com
07-21-2003, 09:56 AM
I would agree that htere has to be some organization involved in bike theft. These are several thousand dollar machines we are talking about...not something people risk breaking into homes while people sleep and into garages to just unload them for a couple hundred bucks.

When people stop buying stolen bikes and parts, they will stop getting stolen as often. People on stolen equipment, who I should add get seen at places (eg./ There is a guy who rides whistler on a cam0 painted stolen bike) need to be "handled" to make it clear it is not tolerated. You would think announcing that a guy is on a stolen bike in a line of a hundred hard core riders would get this ball rolling.

Lock up your stuff. Don't make it visible and never leave it for a second unattended.

corey@nsmb.com
07-21-2003, 09:57 AM
Originally posted by ATN
IMO, the best way to crack the rings would be to get together some unridable (worthless to us) but good looking bikes (cracks, broken dropouts, ovalized headsets, etc) and get the police to plant their tracking devices in one of the tubes. Drive around, leave 1-3 outside stores, chained to stop signs, etc, 5-7 in total, and watch where they end up.

Don't tell anyone about the transmitters (make the criminals think it was just good police work) and repeat.

"You have just stolen a bait bike. Why are you smiling?"

superman_4
07-21-2003, 10:02 AM
I think an easy way is just to plant a bike, and park a van across the street with a video camera.

In a magazine i heard what Aaron Chase wanted to do for fun. Take a bike, and saw partially through most of the tubes, then cover the cuts with tape or stickers, than plant it in and wait for someone to get on. When they tried to ride away it would fall apart :lol:

ATN
07-21-2003, 10:03 AM
Originally posted by Mulletron
"You have just stolen a bait bike. Why are you smiling?"

Nope.

After one or 2 rounds of getting the bait bikes stolen, theives may realize that a pair of rigs worth three grand outside the sev is too good to be true. I'd rather as many theives as possible take the bikes into their homes, so as many crooks get time and their houses searched as possible.

A bait car works because there are lots of cars on the road, all you have to do is put some spare change and a pack on smokes on the front seat and it's enticing yet normal.

corey@nsmb.com
07-21-2003, 10:16 AM
I was just making fun using the ICBC commercial for the bait cars. Your idea is good! :)

brian
07-21-2003, 10:20 AM
last week in Squamish, Neil Kindree ( a young ripper) had about 12 grand in bikes jacked from his garage. They had an idea you did it, went to the guys house and he had about 14 other bikes there and a few more at another place. Within the 12 hours that this all took place the bikes had been stripped, serial #'s filed off and rebuilt with different parts swapped around.

ATN
07-21-2003, 10:23 AM
Originally posted by Mulletron
I was just making fun using the ICBC commercial for the bait cars. Your idea is good! :)

I know, but the program's principles would have to be a little different.

How would I go about getting it to happen?

Get NSMBA on board for some professionalism, contact the local stores and bike co's for some parts, and then get the RCMP to supply the tracking devices and commit to raid the houses?

It would be extremely good publicity for the NSMBA, working with law enforement and all.

Lady Gravity
07-21-2003, 10:28 AM
Originally posted by brian
last week in Squamish, Neil Kindree ( a young ripper) had about 12 grand in bikes jacked from his garage. They had an idea you did it, went to the guys house and he had about 14 other bikes there and a few more at another place. Within the 12 hours that this all took place the bikes had been stripped, serial #'s filed off and rebuilt with different parts swapped around.

holy crap :|
i think that's what happening in the tri-cities also - apparently it's the same guy stealing LOTS of bikes - the cops know who he is, know him by name, but haven't been able to prove anything yet. if we could only search his house, i'd bet we'd find lots of bikes/parts :(

freerider guy
07-21-2003, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by brian
last week in Squamish, Neil Kindree ( a young ripper) had about 12 grand in bikes jacked from his garage. They had an idea you did it, went to the guys house and he had about 14 other bikes there and a few more at another place. Within the 12 hours that this all took place the bikes had been stripped, serial #'s filed off and rebuilt with different parts swapped around.

Time for a ass kicking!!!! Seriousily though if you gave me the chance I would beat the crap out of that guy mabe break one or 2 of his legs, and when I'm walking away and you can hear cop cars in the distance coming to his house because of his screams of pain I'd let him know that, 'hey don't steal any more bikes or I'l come and break more bones'. I'll leave a little note by him saying that he was an avid bike theif and drug dealer with a kilogram of cocain hidden up his butt and this action was taken by a concerned vigilante citizen. Sorry just a little drem of mine.

Diligent_Nose
07-21-2003, 07:10 PM
A kid came to the pool today on a Rampage today, askes to put it in the firstaid room, I say sure, but I can't promis it will be there, he kinda shugs his sholders and walks off, He had armor, all brand name cloths on, and not a scrath on his bike. My boss asked why I let him put the bike in the first aid room, I told her because it was a $2000 bike.

The moral of the story is nothing is going to get done because most poeple don't relise how much money bikes are worth, and kids with bikes from mommy and daddy arn't going to take the proper steps to make sure there bikes don't get stollen.