Watson DID Do it!

[joeyjeremiah]

Heard it from him in Whistler about an hour ago. Not sure of the full details, but he did do it.

Just found this too...

Quote from velonews.com...

Tour jumper
VeloNews managed to catch up with Kona freeride pro Dave Watson who was just back from an eventful excursion to France. After being approached by a French cycling magazine a month and a half ago, Watson pulled off a monumental stunt, actually jumping over the back half of the peloton during the Alp d'Huez stage of the Tour de France. Watson estimated that the jump, a road gap, was about 45 feet in distance.

"I had to come in from a funky angle because there were some police in the way," Watson explained. "And I had to time it just right because I didn't want to go in front of the riders and spook them. It was a group of about 15 and I went over right at the end of the group."

Watson added that he had to brake check ever so slightly right before take-off, and that caused him to come up about a foot short on the landing.

"I aired it nice," he said. "But I got bucked and crashed pretty hard. It's a jump I could do 10 times in a row no problem, but there was just so much going on."

Asked what was the point of the jump, Watson said he "wanted to celebrate the progression of cycling. We're in a rad sport and I wanted to do something to help get it to the masses. Whether people think I'm a hero or a zero, I don't care. Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but the only person in jeopardy was me."

Taken from article here (at the bottom)...


http://www.velonews.com/race/mtn/articles/4606.0.html

[rampage 01]

ummm did wat?

[joeyjeremiah]

Jumped over the Tour de France. A pack of about 16 riders. There's a long thread about it on the board.

[Nelson]

youre shitting me...:eek:

[joeyjeremiah]

Nope, it's true. He was interviewed about it during the Slopestyle event tonight. Sounded pretty crazy.

[nick1111]

Did they get away with footage and pics?

[truckland]

who won the slopestlyle?

[joeyjeremiah]

Don't know what happenned with footage, etc.

I left before they announced a winner, but Berrecloth killed it in his last run and I assume he won.

Sad note...Gareth Dyer bailed on a backflip over a huge gap and broke his arm. He would have won for sure if he stuck it!

[T.Walker]

tough break for dyer

[Nelson]

there is video footage!!! tons! its gonan be in NWD4 look!

http://www.dh-rangers.com/news/g_news.shtml

[Midas]

whick one i am not good at my european languages.

[.glib]

Originally posted by shor3 whor3
whick one i am not good at my european languages.
Top one. Run it through google translation. Says he fell and hurt himself, pictures are hard to find, it was being filmed for NWD4, and he was taken to the hospital, then directly to jail.

[the flying moose]

Dave Watson jumps over the TdF Peloton Freerider provokes the route de France The Dave Watson well-known from Freeride films jumps over the Peloton of the route de France! Hardly a medium on it and the Canadian Freeride scene is reported except itself: Watson built itself to end of the road a kicker, on which other side the landing anrauscht and than the Peloton, jumped the Canadian over the field. Now Watson is not in France in detention, a joke! Still is little admits over the jump and pictures are inexistent nearly. One says however that the film crew for new World Disorder 4 with locally was and the whole in the box has. With the jump Watson hurt itself slightly, pulled however a few spectator in. The spectators at the edge are with the driver field along-coagulated and concomitantly before Watsons landing. This had to extend the jump inadvertently somewhat, fell and drew smaller injuries of it. After the short stay in the hospital Watson was taken directly by the gendarmerie in receipt and taken in detention. These data are based on statements of Freeridern and journalists in the surrounding field of the Freeride scene in Whistler Mountain and are not offziell yet confirmed, also with Watson had still no direct contact.

[Midas]

Originally posted by Leroy McRodney
there is video footage!!! tons! its gonan be in NWD4 look!

http://www.dh-rangers.com/news/g_news.shtml


where is the footage?

[Nelson]

Dave Watson jumps over the TdF Peloton Freerider provokes the route de France the Dave Watson well-known from Freeride films jumps over the Peloton of the route de France! Hardly a medium on it and the Canadian Freeride scene is reported except itself: Watson built itself to end of the road a kicker, on which other side the landing anrauscht and than the Peloton, jumped the Canadian over the field. Now Watson is not in France in detention, a joke! Still is little admits over the jump and pictures are inexistent nearly. One says however that the film crew for new World Disorder 4 with locally was and the whole in the box has. With the jump Watson hurt itself slightly, pulled however a few spectator in. The spectators at the edge are with the driver field along-coagulated and concomitantly before Watsons landing. This had to extend the jump inadvertently somewhat, fell and drew smaller injuries of it. After the short stay in the hospital Watson was taken directly by the gendarmerie in receipt and taken in detention. These data are based on statements of Freeridern and journalists in the surrounding field of the Freeride scene in Whistler Mountain and are not offziell yet confirmed, also with Watson had still no direct contact.

[the flying moose]

sorry that was translated with babelfish. i apologize for the confusing wording.

[.glib]

Originally posted by shor3 whor3
where is the footage?
On the NWD4 cameras.

[Midas]

toite.

[Nelson]

Originally posted by shor3 whor3
where is the footage?

probably in a hotel in a MAc powerbook in the french alps....beside some freeride filmers bed.

[nick1111]

There is no point in making people wait for NWD4 to see it. The day it comes out someone will just post it online anyway. They should send it to TV channels now, and give freeriding some exposure.

[SHIZONIC]

So there is no video link?

[truckland]

Originally posted by joeyjeremiah
Don't know what happenned with footage, etc.

I left before they announced a winner, but Berrecloth killed it in his last run and I assume he won.

Sad note...Gareth Dyer bailed on a backflip over a huge gap and broke his arm. He would have won for sure if he stuck it! thanks.
that really sucks for Dyer:(

[::Liam::]

man the fottage for that is gonna be sick
whens dissorder 4 out anyone? lasrt year it wasnt till jan or something over here... stupiud australia...

[Mountain Dewd]

that sucks for gareth.


and it is really cool watson did it, did he really get arrested. i dont see why, he could make it a safe stunt imo.

it is funny though, i wish oln would of reported it, those ho's

[rampage 01]

bwhaha THATS SOOOO COOL!!!! i was watching a bit of it tonite... did they have n e footage on oln???

haha watson is such a mad:thepimp:

[WBC]

:cry:

I :heart: gareth

[joeyjeremiah]

Quote from velonews.com...

Tour jumper
VeloNews managed to catch up with Kona freeride pro Dave Watson who was just back from an eventful excursion to France. After being approached by a French cycling magazine a month and a half ago, Watson pulled off a monumental stunt, actually jumping over the back half of the peloton during the Alp d'Huez stage of the Tour de France. Watson estimated that the jump, a road gap, was about 45 feet in distance.

"I had to come in from a funky angle because there were some police in the way," Watson explained. "And I had to time it just right because I didn't want to go in front of the riders and spook them. It was a group of about 15 and I went over right at the end of the group."

Watson added that he had to brake check ever so slightly right before take-off, and that caused him to come up about a foot short on the landing.

"I aired it nice," he said. "But I got bucked and crashed pretty hard. It's a jump I could do 10 times in a row no problem, but there was just so much going on."

Asked what was the point of the jump, Watson said he "wanted to celebrate the progression of cycling. We're in a rad sport and I wanted to do something to help get it to the masses. Whether people think I'm a hero or a zero, I don't care. Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but the only person in jeopardy was me."

Taken from article here (at the bottom)...


http://www.velonews.com/race/mtn/articles/4606.0.html

[stinkyman]

thats cool, at least he did it for the right reasons. i cant wait to see it one video, watsons my hero:heart:

[ronald55555]

the roadies are gonna be sooo pissed off

[Nelson]

sucks he didnt land it........:(

[jack]

haha thats insane i wanna see sum video footage

[white ri0t]

just imagine if...
1) he smoked the peleton
2) he landed on Jan (I would drive to Van to smack him)
3) he tried to bunnyhop over someone's bike, and the internet flaming that would ensue.

[Roasted]

I posted this on ridemonkey and will post here too

I can't believe this. Do we want to be in the same category that skate boarders were for 30 years. Looked down upon as the scum that walked to earth. Everyone thinking we break laws and ignore us amongst other things). I don't want that. I want to be looked at like I am an athlete. Arg...the Tour...what a slap in the face of true history. And all in the name of progression...



quote:
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Asked what was the point of the jump, Watson said he "wanted to celebrate the progression of cycling. We're in a rad sport and I wanted to do something to help get it to the masses. Whether people think I'm a hero or a zero, I don't care. Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but the only person in jeopardy was me."

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Well now everyone is gonna know about us. They are going to know we have no respect for anyone but ourselves and we are a bunch of young punks on mountain bikes riding over, down, through anything in our path. Terrific.

[Big_Air_Smite]

I think it's absolutly awsome he was willing to do it, wish he did it in Morzine! The tour sucked! Was sooooooo boring! I was there, at the finish line, utter crap. Come to Morzine next year Dave.

Ride On

(I've got nothing against Roadies)

[GrimniR]

Dave Watson jumping the Tour is the coolest thing I've heard about in a long time. And anyone who doesn't think it's cool needs to take the stick out of their ass.

[theoriginalhardcore]

now i cant wait for nwd4 to come out

[Stunning Stu]

"Whether people think I'm a hero or a zero, I don't care. Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but the only person in jeopardy was me."

Here's one vote for ZERO.

[Keefer]

Cool, yes.
Smart? See Roasted's post.

[GrimniR]

Originally posted by Stunning Stu
"Whether people think I'm a hero or a zero, I don't care. Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but the only person in jeopardy was me."

Here's one vote for ZERO.


Here's one vote for HERO.

I you want to start a pole, let's hear what everyone has to say. So far it's one for and one against. Zero or hero - what does everyone else think? Cast your votes now!

[Kevan]

Diggler, that post was genius. hhaha.

Thatll be a cool way to kick off NWD4, watson jumpin the Tour in slow mo.....then bailing. Then all the spandex cylcerls going "any monkey can throw himself off a cliff on a bike and crash, what a disrespectfull punk, he's lucky he's a live....etc" good times, good times.

[Biking Fiend]

Originally posted by Derek Diggler
just imagine if...
1) he smoked the peleton
2) he landed on Jan (I would drive to Van to smack him)
3) he tried to bunnyhop over someone's bike, and the internet flaming that would ensue.

every time i hear that guys name i think bout #3

[Del]

Originally posted by Biking Fiend
every time i hear that guys name i think bout #3

Same lol, that was quite an escapade :lol:

[Kevan]

I actually thought this thread was going to be confirming that it WAS watson who hopped the bike (and clipped it) :rolleyes:

[Biking Fiend]

Originally posted by Kevan
I actually thought this thread was going to be confirming that it WAS watson who hopped the bike (and clipped it) :rolleyes:

oh god we dont need to start this again

[Lady Gravity]

Originally posted by Biking Fiend
oh god we dont need to start this again

hahahahahahahahahaha

[Kevan]

:D hahah...but.....but.....we could make SO many jokes

[white ri0t]

Originally posted by Del
Same lol, that was quite an escapade :lol:

it was an embarrasment to mountain biking, IMO.

[brock]

Originally posted by Derek Diggler
it was an embarrasment to mountain biking, IMO.

I could not agree more.

[Battlecat]

I think it is sweet

Dave Watson was in jail for 3 days

I talked to him at whistler:)

WATSON RULES:)

[freerider guy]

If u guys read the little article about him then you know how much care he took to not freak them out and so forth.

[Lady Gravity]

Originally posted by freerider guy
If u guys read the little article about him then you know how much care he took to not freak them out and so forth.

i don't care how much "care" he took, i still think it's disrespectful. however..it's done. meh.

[Del]

Originally posted by Derek Diggler
it was an embarrasment to mountain biking, IMO.


Think it was the truth what happened to Shin?

[Lady Gravity]

Originally posted by Del
Think it was the truth what happened to Shin?

totally.
it was just blown way out of proportion, and got out of control.

[parksvilleguy]

knowing the NWD crew it seemed like over 2 years between nwd2 and 3....maybe i'm just caught up in time and their cameras were stuck on 9/11 or something...but the clips will come out sometime. and u would think that maybe the helicopter that is following the whole tour would have gotten something on film since it follows the racers and its the eyes from above!! either way the film for it be either stills or video footage will pop up sometime soon, not to worry

[brock]

Originally posted by theoriginalhardcore
now i cant wait for nwd4 to come out

Neither can I. So I can not buy it.

Originally posted by GrimniR
Zero or hero - what does everyone else think? Cast your votes now!


Zero

Originally posted by Primo DHer
I think it is sweet

Dave Watson was in jail for 3 days

I talked to him at whistler

WATSON RULES


Did I miss the part where going to jail became cool?

[Del]

Originally posted by brock
Neither can I. So I can not buy it.



Zero



Did I miss the part where going to jail became cool?

depends what kinda Xtreme action you like. Jail can be fun!

-3-3-3-3

[TokSik]

Anyone else notice how the younger board members think this is awesome and the older members think it's disrespectful?

[Big_Air_Smite]

Originally posted by TokSik
Anyone else notice how the younger board members think this is awesome and the older members think it's disrespectful?

Good point, very good point.

[davet]

Well I guess if the progression of mountain biking is showing a complete disrespect for a historical event, Dave Watson succeeded in showing this to the world. This is a huge black eye for mountain biking. Freeriding needs the support of the entire sport. The x-c guys generally don't like us, now we've pissed off the roadies as well. These two groups have been accepted by the general public. We haven't, and now we've been set back further. There is a whole big world that thinks freeriding is bad for the enviroment (true or not) and should be banned. We've got to think about the big picture. Mr. Watson did not.

[Biking Fiend]

i think its retarded!

think of this, there is a downhill race where at a point the track crosses a road, but on the road a big group of about 15 roadies speeds by on the road, they dont hit anyone or come close, but there is a slight chance they could and if they do they will mess up the persons run and mayeb winning alot of money or even hurting them.

Now dont go and tell me you wouldnt care if that happened because i knwo u guys would be on here ranting about how they shouldnt have done that. When ya look at it from the other peoples side it shows that watson really is a tool.

[Big_Air_Smite]

Lots of good points in here, Fiend's right, we'd all be raging.

[Dom@nsmb.com]

Disrespectfull, many peeps have been working hard to convince the UCI to back up a proposition to would move DH one step closer to the big show(Olympics).

Thanks to the action of some selfish little boy the cause has been push back 10 years.

Talk about progression

:rolleyes:

[davet]

Originally posted by TokSik
Anyone else notice how the younger board members think this is awesome and the older members think it's disrespectful?

Us older members see the big picture beyond "What's cool"

Mostly because we've all done some dumb things in life without thinking it through and then suffered the consequences.

Dave Watson isn't a kid, he should have known better.

[Mic]

Originally posted by Dom@nsmb.com
Disrespectfull, many peeps have been working hard to convince the UCI to back up a proposition to would move DH one step closer to the big show(Olympics).

Thanks to the action of some selfish little boy the cause has been push back 10 years.

Talk about progression

:rolleyes:

Word....a freeride show in the town where the finish line was would have been waaayy cooler and smarter. and more impressive me thinks.

Anyway - it's done and now every single freerider in the world has to explain where the difference btw dave's jump and his/her own jump or drop is. hmmm. :scream:

[Rat]

Its about as cool as those morons who parachute into football games.

[Lady Gravity]

Originally posted by Biking Fiend
watson really is a tool.

that pretty much sums it up.

[brian]

kona clump? more like kona chump

[Neo]

Originally posted by Derek Diggler
just imagine if...
1) he smoked the peleton
2) he landed on Jan (I would drive to Van to smack him)
3) he tried to bunnyhop over someone's bike, and the internet flaming that would ensue.

haha yea.

personally i don't think it was a good idea on watson's part. i know he's a good rider and could do the jump X number of times no prob, but suppose he does fuck up and hurt someone besides himself or even a tour rider, that would look really bad for mountainbiking. sounds like a publicity stunt to me. those tour rider's have to endure enough danger without having a dude on a 40 lb bike sailing over their heads. not to mention the danger to spectators and organizers. there have been accidents and even death on the tour before, why increase the danger unnecessarily?

[Bryce]

On the Bulletin Board: Watson is lame
On the trail: Watson rules

Everyone has their opinion

I just hope he didn't have to toss any french salad

[sanrensho]

Originally posted by Biking Fiend
think of this, there is a downhill race where at a point the track crosses a road, but on the road a big group of about 15 roadies speeds by on the road, they dont hit anyone or come close, but there is a slight chance they could and if they do they will mess up the persons run and mayeb winning alot of money or even hurting them.

Now dont go and tell me you wouldnt care if that happened because i knwo u guys would be on here ranting about how they shouldnt have done that. When ya look at it from the other peoples side it shows that watson really is a tool.

That's really it in a nutshell. You don't jump over something just because you can.

Perhaps he will jump unannounced over a bunch of volunteer trail workers and kids the next time we have a trail day. How cool would that be?

[freerider guy]

^^^That would be funny you are just sitting there nailing somthing down and then all of a sudden you hear some suspention in the distance a chain slap and then the clicking of a freehub and there is dave sailing over head. and as you see him your like hi dave and he is like hey guys good building!! and waves to you then lands rides away. That would be funny

[nickschwarzmiller]

It will be really cool to see. Although very disrespectful. I wonder if thers huge hate groups twards the spectators of the tour. Just today or yesterday a guy cliped lance armstrong making him and another guy crash. And i really doubt that he jumped over any of the front guys i bet it was the guys twards the back.

[davet]

The guys at the back worked just as hard as the guys at the front to be there. Even if nothing went wrong, it is still a distraction. These riders need 100% concentration to just finish in an event like this, they spend all year training for it.

I'm sure Watson wasn't actually going to jump over riders. I would imagine (hope) the shot they were going for would be him sailing over with the riders still in view. but out of the way.

I'm sure he made someone a nice girlfriend in the French jail.

[Lady Gravity]

Originally posted by nickschwarzmiller
It will be really cool to see. Although very disrespectful. I wonder if thers huge hate groups twards the spectators of the tour. Just today or yesterday a guy cliped lance armstrong making him and another guy crash. And i really doubt that he jumped over any of the front guys i bet it was the guys twards the back.

actually Lance got clipped by a spectator "The fall came with about 6 miles left in the 99-mile stage. Armstrong smacked onto the road after a spectator's outstretched bag caught his handlebars".

http://espn.go.com/oly/tdf2003/s/2003/0721/1583483.html?partnersite=espn

[Oldfart]

If I was his sponsor I'd fire his ass. That was assinine IMHO. It smacks of Bart Simpson syndrome,"pay attention to me, pay attention to me, payattentiontome". I'd have a lot more respect if these freedogs competed more, actually laid their reputation and ego down on a downhill race course where the time clock would measure their ability on any given day.

[Pennywise]

see this face? not impressed. that was a really dumb thing to do. im sure it must have been a blast, but what if he did come up short? what if he hit a spectator? worse, what if he hit a rider? he was being completely selfish when he did that. didnt care about the consequences, just as long as it looks cool.

as much as it pains me to say this..im looking forward to nwd4 more now :lol:

[SEKTER13]

as cool as jumping over the tour sounds, i think he should of got permision from the riders and the tour to do that, he cant just go around putting ppl in danger just cause he needs an adrenaline rush... :mad:
but yeah pennywise is right too, NWD4 just got more interesting:P

[Dude]

I wonder how many more pairs of Sombrio shorts will be sold now because of this?

Or...

Kona bikes?:eek:

Just a guess...A LOT!

[TokSik]

Originally posted by Oldfart
If I was his sponsor I'd fire his ass. That was assinine IMHO. It smacks of Bart Simpson syndrome,"pay attention to me, pay attention to me, payattentiontome".

If you were his sponsor and you fired him, you'd be an idiot. Exactly what you said "pay attention to me", that's what everyone is doing giving his sponsors TONS of publicity.

I'd have a lot more respect if these freedogs competed more, actually laid their reputation and ego down on a downhill race course where the time clock would measure their ability on any given day.

Since when do freeriders have to race DH, a completely different part of mountain biking, to gain respect? That's like saying "I'd give roadies more respect if they hit that 50ft gap over there." Some freeriders do race DH. Do you have more respect toward those "freedogs" than those who don't want to pay to ride their bikes or those who don't feel they have to prove anything to anyone except themselves? Everytime a freerider goes big or pushes the limits of the sport they lay their reputation and ego on the line.

[sanrensho]

Originally posted by freerider guy
^^^That would be funny you are just sitting there nailing somthing down and then all of a sudden you hear some suspention in the distance a chain slap and then the clicking of a freehub and there is dave sailing over head. and as you see him your like hi dave and he is like hey guys good building!! and waves to you then lands rides away. That would be funny

I would be extremely pissed if someone jumped over me (and endangered my life) without my permission. Hovever, I do agree that he can jump over or on you at any time.

[sanrensho]

Originally posted by Lady Gravity
actually Lance got clipped by a spectator "The fall came with about 6 miles left in the 99-mile stage. Armstrong smacked onto the road after a spectator's outstretched bag caught his handlebars".

http://espn.go.com/oly/tdf2003/s/2003/0721/1583483.html?partnersite=espn

Lance has refused to blame the spectators for the incident and had admitted that he was riding too close to the side of the road. Class act all the way.

[davet]

Or boycotted. Wouldn't be surprised if Kona drops him.

[SEKTER13]

Lance has refused to blame the spectators for the incident and had admitted that he was riding too close to the side of the road. Class act all the way.
werd, thats a wicked act on his part, i dont think many riders would have done that:)

[clay@nsmb.com]

Embarassing.


====

Somewhere Shin is shaking his fist as we speak.

[8-balled]

what if......what if......what if well he never hurt anyone so who cares I think I hear a lot more fucken dumber stuff then that every time I turn on the t.v, it's not like he's some punk kid he jumps like that for a living it must have been a easy gap for him to clear or he wouldn't have even thought about it. If its so stupid then why the hell does everyone want to see it so bad.

[ronald55555]

it would be cool if the road riders agreed to it, and if they think it would be cool, everyone's happy. but that doesnt seem to be the case, so it's quite disrespectful imo. reading some of the roadies forums, alot of them think we're just a bunch of pot smoking beer drinking disrespectful lazy ass punks, which is not true, but doing stuff like what watson did just encourage them to think like that.

[brian]

where is all this publicity and "getting it to the masses"? Did OLN include it in their coverage? How about ESPN or TSN? Have you heard about it any newspapers? The only people talking about (even though Velonews mentioned it) are the people on this BB.

[ronald55555]

Originally posted by brian
where is all this publicity and "getting it to the masses"? Did OLN include it in their coverage? How about ESPN or TSN? Have you heard about it any newspapers? The only people talking about (even though Velonews mentioned it) are the people on this BB.

even if they get tons of publicity, it wont be good.
the roadies forum are probably talking about it, but it's probably strongly negative.

[Oldfart]

Originally posted by TokSik
If you were his sponsor and you fired him, you'd be an idiot. Exactly what you said "pay attention to me", that's what everyone is doing giving his sponsors TONS of publicity.

Buddy. You ever heard of bad publicity? Who watches the TdF? Road racing fans. I'll ask Jake the Snake next time I run into him what he thought of all that.



Since when do freeriders have to race DH, a completely different part of mountain biking, to gain respect? That's like saying "I'd give roadies more respect if they hit that 50ft gap over there." Some freeriders do race DH. Do you have more respect toward those "freedogs" than those who don't want to pay to ride their bikes or those who don't feel they have to prove anything to anyone except themselves? Everytime a freerider goes big or pushes the limits of the sport they lay their reputation and ego on the line.

I'm not talking about you're impressions but mine. I said I would have more respect. I did not say I had no respect for the riders one sees on the trails and in the films. Indeed I am in awe of many of those riders because I'll never do what they can. I'm too chicken. I recognize that it takes skill to do what they do, but it takes more than just skill to compete. I know of some damn fine riders and skiers who started out racing or who tried it but didn't have it mentally.

[Oldfart]

Originally posted by 8-balled
what if......what if......what if well he never hurt anyone so who cares I think I hear a lot more fucken dumber stuff then that every time I turn on the t.v, it's not like he's some punk kid he jumps like that for a living it must have been a easy gap for him to clear or he wouldn't have even thought about it. If its so stupid then why the hell does everyone want to see it so bad.

What if I drink and drive all my life but never have an accident or get caught. Doesn't change the fact that drinking and driving is stupid.

[8-balled]

Originally posted by brian
where is all this publicity and "getting it to the masses"? Did OLN include it in their coverage? How about ESPN or TSN? Have you heard about it any newspapers? The only people talking about (even though Velonews mentioned it) are the people on this BB. Your right, everybody's freaken what other people are thinking of it, no one knows and no one cares about it nothing will change because of daves gap he did.

[Dom@nsmb.com]

Originally posted by 8-balled
If its so stupid then why the hell does everyone want to see it so bad.

Because we are all pathological voyeur :(

[8-balled]

Originally posted by Oldfart
What if I drink and drive all my life but never have an accident or get caught. Doesn't change the fact that drinking and driving is stupid. drinken and driven.......this has nothing to do with being under the influence of a drug and not even knowing what the hell your even doing and riders of that level do this type of gap under calculated control.

[Dude]

Originally posted by davet
Or boycotted. Wouldn't be surprised if Kona drops him.

Are you yanking me?

DW doesn’t care about influencing the old farts; he cares about influencing the youth. The young guys think this stunt is the best thing since the Olsen twins tuned 16 (I’m waiting for them to turn 18 ).

Look at the language used around this board- “Werd”, “Peeps”, “Mofo”, “Wicked”…

Then there’s the code language they use: “why r u bashin dw 4 going 2 big?”

Every time I log on here I feel old, or I’ve tripped on to the NBA “Playa” page! Can anyone tell me where to get my gold chain? Werd.

The young generation of riders may be dumb and dumber, but their balls are big and bigger (don’t tell the twins…want them for myself). Dave has never “toted the company line”, as they say. He’s always marched to the beat of his own drummer. From a marketing standpoint, this is sheer brilliance! I predict that the only way Kona will drop him is if they can’t afford him! Anyone under 20 will want to be like Dave. Quick Dave…get a shoe deal.

I’m not saying what he did was smart. Certainly is was stupid from a safety standpoint. It’s also something that, as a hypothetical exec from one of his sponsored companies, I’d advise against. But, as that same executive now, I’m giggling like an Olsen twin. The guy had the nuts to plan and execute this thing, knowing full well he was assuming all the risk. Two words: BAL-SY! My respect for what he did is irrelevant, but I absolutely respect his willingness to take the risk. That alone will be enough to send Sombrio orders through the roof. I take a size 36, Dave. Thanks. Cheque is in the mail brother.

Anyhow, old donkeys like us can bitch, whinge, and moan all we want…the damage is done.

Don’t be pissed by the takes that I got, I’m just Dude from da block.
:cool:

[Pennywise]

Originally posted by Oldfart
What if I drink and drive all my life but never have an accident or get caught. Doesn't change the fact that drinking and driving is stupid.

^ the most intelligent thing in this thread so far

and Dude, you just arent |33t enough :P

[8-balled]

Originally posted by Dude
Are you yanking me?

DW doesn’t care about influencing the old farts; he cares about influencing the youth. The young guys think this stunt is the best thing since the Olsen twins tuned 16 (I’m waiting for them to turn 18 ).

Look at the language used around this board- “Werd”, “Peeps”, “Mofo”, “Wicked”…

Then there’s the code language they use: “why r u bashin dw 4 going 2 big?”

Every time I log on here I feel old, or I’ve tripped on to the NBA “Playa” page! Can anyone tell me where to get my gold chain? Werd.

The young generation of riders may be dumb and dumber, but their balls are big and bigger (don’t tell the twins…want them for myself). Dave has never “toted the company line”, as they say. He’s always marched to the beat of his own drummer. From a marketing standpoint, this is sheer brilliance! I predict that the only way Kona will drop him is if they can’t afford him! Anyone under 20 will want to be like Dave. Quick Dave…get a shoe deal.

I’m not saying what he did was smart. Certainly is was stupid from a safety standpoint. It’s also something that, as a hypothetical exec from one of his sponsored companies, I’d advise against. But, as that same executive now, I’m giggling like an Olsen twin. The guy had the nuts to plan and execute this thing, knowing full well he was assuming all the risk. Two words: BAL-SY! My respect for what he did is irrelevant, but I absolutely respect his willingness to take the risk. That alone will be enough to send Sombrio orders through the roof. I take a size 36, Dave. Thanks. Cheque is in the mail brother.

Anyhow, old donkeys like us can bitch, whinge, and moan all we want…the damage is done.

Don’t be pissed by the takes that I got, I’m just Dude from da block.
:cool: couldn't have been said any better.:)

[sanrensho]

Originally posted by brian
where is all this publicity and "getting it to the masses"? Did OLN include it in their coverage? How about ESPN or TSN? Have you heard about it any newspapers? The only people talking about (even though Velonews mentioned it) are the people on this BB.

There hasn't been any mention of this incident on one of the roadie forums that I visit. Which is probably a good thing.

Where this particular stunt ranks on the stupidity scale does not change the fact that he endangered people's lives without their permission.

[Biking Fiend]

wheres couch?

[Kevan]

Wow "Dude"......you sure love those twins, lol. And by the way....when the younger kids use "werd" and "ill" and all that other crap...we *usually* dont mean it seriously and its as a gag and such....its just used SO ridiculously often it has become common and standard....its lost all its commical value now.


No one cares about this anyway.....considering how big a deal the Tour is....theres still NO news coverage at all, if ppl died, or ppl got hurt or crashed on the course, then it would make the news. Theres nothing bad about it to the public eyes, i can picture Amahd Rashad saying now "some crazy stunt BMXer crashes while jumpin the tour....atleast he was wearing a helmet!" or something. I told poeple about it and they didnt even understand what i was saying. "Hey, some guy jumped over the Tour" *what, how is that possible?* "On his bike" *his road bike?* "Mountain bike....like made a jump and went over the road while ppl were riding" *o yeah......*

[gearwh0re]

wonder how dave is liking the french dragonion prison system. they can keep you in jail forEVER without trail.

i am sure he looked into that first :lol:

[C.C.]

How can this stunt be good for mountain biking? To the rest of the world, it just goes to show how irresponsible mountain bikers can be. Endangering the lives of others is not cool.

[Neo]

lol i was just watching ride to the hills. watson's rip down ak mullet line in utah is insane. he rips. but i don't think it was a good idea to gap the pelaton.

[RyanH]

I don't think this will change what people think about mountain bikers... I havent seen this reported on any news or anything except this bb....

[scottvelez]

Originally posted by GrimniR
Dave Watson jumping the Tour is the coolest thing I've heard about in a long time. And anyone who doesn't think it's cool needs to take the stick out of their ass.

I'd make some comment about growing up, but I'm sure others will do that for me ;-)

This stunt is one of the stupidest things I've heard of in a long time. I mean, the shit that could have happened... unbelievably stupid. Mr. Watson should be ashamed of himself and seek professional counseling as soon as possible.

I always thought he was pretty cool, but now... wow, what a fucking idiot.

scott

[Neo]

Originally posted by scottv
I'd make some comment about growing up, but I'm sure others will do that for me ;-)

This stunt is one of the stupidest things I've heard of in a long time. I mean, the shit that could have happened... unbelievably stupid. Mr. Watson should be ashamed of himself and seek professional counseling as soon as possible.

I always thought he was pretty cool, but now... wow, what a fucking idiot.

scott


well i don't think watson is a "fucking idiot", but i would be careful about using use such shallow retort as basis for an opinion, since it would more likely exhibit some exceptional irony in the words.

myself, i feel that it wasn't the safest and most appropriate thing he could have done for anything related to exposure or endorsement.

[Neo]

here is a quote from cam at nsmb:

Dave Watson made a cameo appearance at the slopestyle after returning from France. You may have heard the rumours about what went down but here are the real goods. Four km from the summit of the Col De Galibier, the penultimate climb of the Alpe D'Huez stage of the Tour de France, Dave Watson launched his Kona over a group of perhaps 15 riders. Dave was careful to ensure the riders wouldn't see him ahead of them so his timing had to be bang on. There were helicopters and police everywhere and the tension of the scene lead Dave to hesitate slightly and then decide to give 'er all the same. His hesitation caused him to come up a little short and he was bucked. Dave landed hard and left the scene in an ambulance but his injuries were not serious - he even considered competing in the slopestyle. There were stories of jail time and immigration problems but Dave said the cops were pretty cool once they found out what was going on - who is crazier than the French after all? If you are wondering what the whole thing looked like you'll have to wait for Derek Westerlund's follow up to NWD 3 - they have the footage.

http://www.nsmb.com/shore_news/slopestyle_07_03.php

[mr_fungle]

I have no respect for shit like that. Too many factors that could have gone wrong, and he could have seriously injured so many other athletes who have spent many years of their lives in in order to be a part of the tour. All it would have taken is a flat tire, broken chain, anything really at the wrong time and he would have smoked the road riders.... IMHO it was pure and utter stupidity and I think an official appology is in order.

[gearwh0re]

Originally posted by mr_fungle
I have no respect for shit like that. Too many factors that could have gone wrong, and he could have seriously injured so many other athletes who have spent many years of their lives in in order to be a part of the tour. All it would have taken is a flat tire, broken chain, anything really at the wrong time and he would have smoked the road riders.... IMHO it was pure and utter stupidity and I think an official appology is in order.

better words could not be written. if he wanted to show off the progression of biking, he could have done it in another way

[trout]

Originally posted by Dante Alighieri
here is a quote from cam at nsmb:

Dave was careful to ensure the riders wouldn't see him ahead of them so his timing had to be bang on....

the tension of the scene lead Dave to hesitate slightly and then decide to give 'er all the same. His hesitation caused him to come up a little short and he was bucked.

In my opinion this seems oxymoronic. If his timing was bang on he would have stuck it and rode away clean. Pretty selfish act.

[scottvelez]

Originally posted by mr_fungle
IMHO it was pure and utter stupidity and I think an official appology is in order.

Well said. I totally agree.

I'm writing a letter of Kona to complain about this irresponable rider they have on their payroll. This PR gig was way over the line. The best thing Kona could do is to pull his sponsorship.

scott

[Brad Dawg]

Dave Watson, what a hero!! Yes, there is a danger factor... oh well! they dont wear helmets while riding there bikes.... so whats wrong with one of our BC boys riding over top of them..!!

[sik]

two things to say:

1- none of you have seem the godamn video, none of you know the exact curcumstances, and without seeing how things went down how can you pass judgement? it may have been a really stupid move, or it may have actually been fairly safe with him completing the jump just as the peleton passed so as to be rid of the chance of hitting one of them if he bailed. you dont know. <--- period

2- many of you are already acting as if mountainbiking has been pushed back into the stone-age regarding the decisions and opinions of the UCI. again, until you see or hear anything, how will you know how this will affect our sport? will the UCI really judge the sport based on ONE MAN? doubtful.

ive had a roadie try and push me off my bike once while i was riding casually along the side of the road. no shit. do i hate all roadies? nope, i just try not to look at their asses. :rolleyes:

[bullit_kid]

the shit that comes out of some board members ..

holy irrelevent :(

lay off dave ...

[Mic]

Originally posted by brian
where is all this publicity and "getting it to the masses"? Did OLN include it in their coverage? How about ESPN or TSN? Have you heard about it any newspapers? The only people talking about (even though Velonews mentioned it) are the people on this BB.

Hmm. the number of copies sold when NWD 4 comes out will be the only one that takes off I think.
Maybe the whole thing was planned for the video and then afterwards stating that it was for every single rider on the f*cking planet :lol:

[nimzie]

I understand the controversy over what Watson did. It was a lot of risk to take. Thing is this guy IS a pro and he didn't jump over their heads. He jumped over the back of the pack (i.e. not through them). Yes, he could have popped a tire, roasted a chain or whatever but that didn't happen. Quit the self glorification and what-iffing and realize that no one DID get hurt. Life's too short not to follow your dreams. I'm sure Dave thought about this gap the whole way overseas on the plane.
Should Kona can him? I don't think they would do that. Will Sombrio sell more? Who knows? He does march to his own drum and that's what makes him Watson.
I think this was a very dangerous thing to try. It could have gone waaaay bad. I'm not saying zero or hero, just freak of nature.

If he landed it and rolled away, what would people be saying? Same thing? How is what he did that much more dangerous than some idiot with a fan hat sticking his head out and clipping Lance's bars?

I dunno. I think the footage will be amazing, but the feat itself is definately quite questionable. He's paid his dues in the slammer and I"m sure there are waay more people around here who think he's an idiot than not. Oh well, that's what marching to your own drum is all about.

Head to toe in Sombrio either way... Represent.

[brian]

Originally posted by nimzie


If he landed it and rolled away, what would people be saying? Same thing? How is what he did that much more dangerous than some idiot with a fan hat sticking his head out and clipping Lance's bars?


Head to toe in Sombrio either way... Represent.

1) I would be saying the same thing.
2) It was a kid waving a feed bag and Lance admitted it was partially is fault for riding too close to the crowd.

[Oldfart]

I think this horse is so beat that its become one with the ground. Common folks, opinions are just that, opinions. No one but Watson was hurt, no harm done, it'll look fine in video. The potential to disrupt or affect the TdF was real. The fact that a number of posters thought poorly of the stunt proves there is some bad publicity coming from this. Some also thought it was cool so there was also good publicity. Free country think what you like, just base opinion on facts and keep an open mind.

You wanna know a bigger threat though to the riding many of us like to do? The trial decision to award that snow boarder who suffered the neck injury around 1.2 million? ( I forget the exact amount ). This is what scares Municipalities. Scares them enough that some in power will want to dismantle stunts on public property not because they want to protect kids, but to protect their own butts. They don't want the cities they work for to get sued as their jobs might be on the line. If any of us has to sit on such a jury, I'd hope we would come to our conclusions based on facts and not pity. In my view, if some one willingly goes off a tabletop and tragicaly injures themselves, its really sad and unfortunate, but really whom can you blame but yourself. Some times life deals you a shitty hand and it sucks.

[Dude]

That court decision pissed me off as well. As a 17-year-old kid, you should have the ability to identify and assess risk. That settlement sets a huge precedent which potentially could reach far beyond the issue of school trips, and should they make them or not.

It affects Whistler's future decisions on the Bike Park, but even more importantly, it leaves the builders on the North Shore exposed as open game. How do these guys feel? Now that there is precedence, the potential is there for some kid to sue one of the builders if said dumb kid is dumb enough to attempt a stunt beyond his capability.

Yes, I agree...this is sad. I feel for the kid, but the argument that he used (he argued that he had zero responsibility, and no fault in the accident) is disgraceful. Worse, he also settled out of court with the mountain, so he received far more over and above the 2.2 million (or whatever the sum was).

Werd to the peeps all y'all,:rolleyes:

Dude.

[gooch]

Originally posted by Dude
Worse, he also settled out of court with the mountain, so he received far more over and above the 2.2 million (or whatever the sum was).


Wrong

[Biking Fiend]

watson needs his head checked, gome to his sense and stop doing stupid things.

He has his little cronnies that back him up all the time so it doenst matter what h does they will save him/

[Dude]

Gooch,

"Wrong"? Care to expand on "Wrong"? Care to actually add something to the converstaion? Mabe a "Because" is in order.:rolleyes:

That's the way the Sun reported it. I suppose they could be wrong.

Money in da hood,

Dude.

[Dom@nsmb.com]

Originally posted by Dude
Gooch,

"Wrong"? Care to expand on "Wrong"? Care to actually add something to the converstaion? Mabe a "Because" is in order.:rolleyes:

That's the way the Sun reported it. I suppose they could be wrong.

Money in da hood,

Dude.

....as in wrong thread;)

Read the title, this is not about that kid but Dave Watson wacky adventure in France:rolleyes:

So, Gooch reply was totally appropriate

[Dude]

Yo G...

Just a friendly, non sarcastic suggestion: change the thread name to "Liability if one biffs a stunt". You already have 8976 active threads here...no need to create another.

You da bomb,

Dude.

[corey@nsmb.com]

Originally posted by Dude
Yo G...

Just a friendly, non sarcastic suggestion: change the thread name to "Liability if one biffs a stunt". You already have 8976 active threads here...no need to create another.

You da bomb,

Dude.

It might be a good idea to start a thread about "Liability if one biffs a stunt", it would make for an interesting discussion.

This thread is about the event of Dave pulling off something that sounds like is well on its way to satisfying its goal. "Attention". Look how many threads there are about it, and how much talk it has generated in the bike community before ANY footage has been seen. The stunt has already accomplished its goal in part, prior to anyone even seeing it. That is pretty remarkable.

Cheers. :)

[Neo]

:zzz::zzz:

[Team2K]

sweeet! too bad he didn't land it... what a symbolic stunt.... the progression of biking from the old skewl road bikers to the new school monster huckers... seems this shoulda been all over the news tho... yet no media coverage?

[Bukkake]

People are gonna do whatever they want. Idiots exist in all sports and it rarely causes people to judge an entire sport
just because of the actions of one.

Think of how many football players probably get in bar fights each year yet the NFL is huge.

Kobe Bryant charged with sexual assult is anyone gonna disband the NBA?? Not a chance.

The real reason dh and freeriding will not make it onto the world
stage is simply because not enough people do it. That's why the
UCI ignores it. They dont care what Watson did. The think in numbers and the numbers just aren't there.

You old guys should give up the notion that this stunt has tarnished mountain biking's reputation because the average person doesn't even know what freeriding is and the average person probably never will.

Freeriding is a fringe sport. Always was, is now, and always will be. This stunt is for the benifit of other freeriders so I will enjoy waching it.

You guys should all relax.

[LivingLegacy]

Originally posted by brian

2) It was a kid waving a feed bag and Lance admitted it was partially is fault for riding too close to the crowd.


Have you seen how close the crowds come to the riders? You cannot even see the road ahead. They have to drive cars and honk the horns like mad to get them to move. It wasn't Lance riding to close, it was fans too close.

Now you cannot say this was a big distraction to the riders and it ruined their concentration. If you say that then you have to say the crowds cheering, the horns honking the whole time, and the people running out waving flags in their faces are all distractions. And if all the riders need 100% concentration to finish, then no one will finish.

[BURKE PHANTOMS]

Wow, before this I thought I was involved in a sport that was progressive and somewhat of a fringe sport. In fact up until now It kind of reminded of me of the feeling I got from being a young skateboarder. I am not a punk, I do not use weird code to communicate what I am saying. In fact I was a youth worker for eight years and I was very much involved in working to create healthy opportunities for youth. You would think that a relatively conservative upbringing would make think that Dave Watson is a total idiot. In all reality he may be an idiot but it is the response of my fellow free riders that scares me the most. I think the fact that our overall lack of respect for the neighbors of the shore is a bigger show of disrespect. Since when do we have to gain the respect of the UCI or roadies or cross country riders. Someone else made a comment about not wanting to be treated like skateboarders have been treated for the past thirty years? who cares. As long as we are respectful of what is available to us at a community level we will be fine. Lee Lau and the NSMBA crew have fought the hard battles to keep freeriding on the shore a reality. If a person of Lee's education and experience thinks Watson is an idiot then fine I respect that. It is still my opinion that Watsons jump was no more stupid or idiotic than any other crazy stunt that has been done in the past couple of years. In fact if you want to extend the same overall feeling of this thread to Wade Simmons you would say that he was an idiot for trying to gap the creek where he broke his leg. Personally the only thing that sucked for me was to see an incredibly progressive rider who cares about his sport get hurt. And Kona fire him, give your head a shake, more money will be more like it. Its like our good friends the politicians say "Any press is good press" "The only bad press is no press at all" Lets lighten up and appreciate that there still is a "fringe" sport where all of us old guys can go escape from our daily routines.

[Neo]

http://members.shaw.ca/blaine_louis/images/deadhorse.gif

haha sorry i had to...

good discussion tho :agree:

[BURKE PHANTOMS]

Thanks for listening to my rant, I guess all that is left is to go build some more socially irresponsible stunts and trails just like the Abyss on Burke. :D

[LeeLau]

Originally posted by BURKE PHANTOMS
Thanks for listening to my rant, I guess all that is left is to go build some more socially irresponsible stunts and trails just like the Abyss on Burke. :D

You big kid. I would be honored to go up to Burke and cartwheel off any one of the ramps on Abyss

[KenN]

Originally posted by 8-balled
he jumps like that for a living it must have been a easy gap for him to clear.

So does Darren Butler. But he still made a mistake on a takeoff.

Kn.

[Neo]

Originally posted by KenN
So does Darren Butler. But he still made a mistake on a takeoff.

Kn.

exactly.

[OptionaL]

Dear god, do we honestly need 300 replies that are exactly identical???

We/I get the point, you guys don't need to say how stupid he is in every god damn post.

[KenN]

Originally posted by Barak
People are gonna do whatever they want. Idiots exist in all sports and it rarely causes people to judge an entire sport
just because of the actions of one.

Think of how many football players probably get in bar fights each year yet the NFL is huge.

Kobe Bryant charged with sexual assult is anyone gonna disband the NBA?? Not a chance.

Apples to oranges. Neither Kobe Bryant nor the ball players in the pub were engaged in their professional sport at the time of their incidents. Watson was claiming to be an ambassador to freeriding ... "bringing freeriding to the masses" was the quote, I believe.


The real reason dh and freeriding will not make it onto the world
stage is simply because not enough people do it. That's why the
UCI ignores it. They dont care what Watson did. The think in numbers and the numbers just aren't there.


Uh, the UCI actually doesn't ignore DH. And freeriding isn't really a competitive sport, no matter how Red Bull packages it, so the UCI isn't about to get involved. They being the international body for COMPETITIVE cycling and all.


You old guys should give up the notion that this stunt has tarnished mountain biking's reputation because the average person doesn't even know what freeriding is and the average person probably never will.


This is the problem. A dumb stunt like this will NOT be seen as a lone freerider doing something stupid, but rather a generic mountain biker doing what all mountain bikers typically do.


Freeriding is a fringe sport. Always was, is now, and always will be. This stunt is for the benifit of other freeriders so I will enjoy waching it.

You guys should all relax.


How does it benefit other freeriders? Does the idea of land managers closing trails because they see this stupid stuff sound beneficial to you?

I'll relax when my trails are no longer threatened by idiotic maneuvers by selfish fools.

Shame, Barak, I had you pegged for someone with a much better view of the big picture ... :nono:


Kn.

[analcon]

Originally posted by KenN

I'll relax when my trails are no longer threatened by idiotic maneuvers by selfish fools.




Kn.

I could care less if watson did it or didnt. But do you actualy think this is all gonna get draged back to the shore or any trails in that matter? People wouldnt no what watsons doing they would not no its "freeriding" and even if they did do u think there gonna all the sudden blame him gaping over people on his bike on the shore or any trails? That sounds kind of ridiculs. I no of hundreds of people that could do that gap that have never road the trails in bc or any trails at all. And all they do is jumpand drop there bikes. I didnt see you making sutch a big deal when bender droped at big bear and ate shit with over 500 people onto the road. He may not have been gaping anyone and he even got permision but if anything droping 35 feet and eating shit onto a road makes freeriding look like a ridiculasy retarded sport. Watson gaping them wasnt the best idea but he wants to look cool for the kiddys. No way would this effect are trails.

[BURKE PHANTOMS]

Thanks Lee it means a lot that you like our trail. When the time comes to fight to keep the trails I hope that we can benefit from your experience. I have committee experience as I worked in municipal government and I did help get a skateboard park built in Pitt Meadows so I hope have what it takes. And by the way my name is Lee as well

[analcon]

burke phantoms your guys trail is good fun a intrusting change from the burke i no and love always good to have varity just as long as sawblade remains the same. Keep up the good work

[KenN]

Originally posted by analcon
I could care less if watson did it or didnt. But do you actualy think this is all gonna get draged back to the shore or any trails in that matter? People wouldnt no what watsons doing they would not no its "freeriding" and even if they did do u think there gonna all the sudden blame him gaping over people on his bike on the shore or any trails? That sounds kind of ridiculs. I no of hundreds of people that could do that gap that have never road the trails in bc or any trails at all. And all they do is jumpand drop there bikes. I didnt see you making sutch a big deal when bender droped at big bear and ate shit with over 500 people onto the road. He may not have been gaping anyone and he even got permision but if anything droping 35 feet and eating shit onto a road makes freeriding look like a ridiculasy retarded sport. Watson gaping them wasnt the best idea but he wants to look cool for the kiddys. No way would this effect are trails.

Your not reely pain atenshun ru?

Teh hole poinnt iz taht nobudy karz iff it's freriddin or sumthin els. Thay c a mountian biek and a ridder so they say mountin bikin is bad. then thay say we don want montain bikrz aroun hear and kloz the trials.

end yes, I hav alwayz sed Bendr iz a selfish ideeot. Dew a surch on "Bender" in teh bb.

Kn.

[analcon]

UHOHHHHHHHHH the spelling hero in the house. My oh my what to do mommy. You complaine about watson and not dropin? do u think drop in is doing sumthing good? drop in and what watson did are pretty much the same. Exploiting freeriding and making money off it. I can almost gurntee freeride entertainment payed watson money to do that gap. (ohh wait they dont do that(yes they do)). And whats drop in doing making money off your trails. Drop in puts the shore and everyother trail location they film at in jepordy.

[BURKE PHANTOMS]

Well said. And don't worry we will not mess with any of the stuff that made Burke a destination in the first place. In fact I did Nescafe and connected it all (kind of) all of the way down to Coquitlam river. It was a total good time

[corey@nsmb.com]

ahem...I believe Ken N was being sarcastic....:P

[KenN]

Originally posted by analcon
UHOHHHHHHHHH the spelling hero in the house. My oh my what to do mommy. You complaine about watson and not dropin? do u think drop in is doing sumthing good? drop in and what watson did are pretty much the same. Exploiting freeriding and making money off it. I can almost gurntee freeride entertainment payed watson money to do that gap. (ohh wait they dont do that(yes they do)). And whats drop in doing making money off your trails. Drop in puts the shore and everyother trail location they film at in jepordy.

1) Still apples to oranges. Name one episode of drop-in that shows a rider jumping over people who didn't volunteer for the stunt.

2) I can ignore the occasional spelling or grammatical error, but you managed to fit 28 spelling errors, two run-on sentences and a double negative into 188 words. You fail.

3) Sarcasm is my middle name. No, really, it's on my birth certificate.

Kn.

[analcon]

Originally posted by KenN
1) Still apples to oranges. Name one episode of drop-in that shows a rider jumping over people who didn't volunteer for the stunt.

2) I can ignore the occasional spelling or grammatical error, but you managed to fit 28 spelling errors, two run-on sentences and a double negative into 188 words. You fail.

3) Sarcasm is my middle name. No, really, it's on my birth certificate.

Kn.

You are correct about the jumping over people for sure. It was stupid but i dont think its gonna come back to here and get the trails ruined.

Im not the strongest in english note how im in easy english dont get to high and mighty on how you can spell good, allthough YOU SURE put me in my place.

My middle names harley.

[BURKE PHANTOMS]

Everyone in these threads it seems are out to prove their point and not to listen to each other. I am guilty as well as everyone. It is difficult to be open and receptive when you don't want to lose face with others. Personally, I think the cycling community is small in relation to the world and the only way we can make things improve is to find common ground and be ambassadors of our sport when needed. Watson achieved his goal and freeriding will not suffer unless we let it. So, having said let's try and finish this post and move on. One more thing, please forgive my spelling or grammer as I don't wish to be attacked(sarcasm) for typing mistakes or run on sentences.

[usa_hucker]

Me thinks: Dave Watson = ego driven media whore.

Nobody with any kind of respect would pull something like he did. Did anybody not notice that the French approached him to pull the stunt? You want to know why they didn't have anybody of their own to do it? Because no frenchman in the world would be caught dead looking like a complete idiot like Dave did.

The fact that he crashed was just all to cool for me.

[BURKE PHANTOMS]

Thats a new outlook on things. Can't give up on the contempt and move on. There are fifty messages on this thread with the exact sentiments. It's not making cyclists as a whole look good. Lets put this thread to bed and move on. Watson is only benefitting from everyone that has ranted on this thread. If he is to stop getting mileage from this than we have to stop. I am going to go for a ride tonight, which I open to enjoy as I know that this topic is done and played out.

[well ridden]

theres an article on this on pinkbike

[Neo]

what if this happened to dave as the peleton was underneath?

[Neo]

or this:

http://www.pinkbike.com/modules/photo/?op=view&image=42948

[Biking Fiend]

bang blaine you win a prize, so many factors that he didnt think, shure he knew he could stick it but if he fucked up he would messed over so many dreams and hopes that people have worked so hard to try and achieve, what happens to the pompus media whore, oh he walks off with some scratches and bruises and nothing lost for him.

[analcon]

thats also what happens when filmers pay riders to do stunts :eek:

[Neo]

btw, those pics are of wade simmons and darren butler, both outstanding riders. doesn't matter what the skill level, things can happen and the consequences are brutal.

[scottvelez]

I totally agree. Watson has skills, but unfortunately, he's a selfish ego-chasing idiot who cares only about himself and his reputation for "going big".

For those of you who think his stunt was the dumbest, stupidest and risky thing he could have done, write a letter or email to Sombrio and Kona and complain. Let the sponsors know this type of childish behavior will not be tolerated.

[KenN]

My honest opinion? I think it's all a ruse anyhow. The jump never happened. All we have is a lot of buzz and a single photo that was probably photoshopped. Not a bit of news on any major news net, nothing on OLN, nothing on any cycling site (Velonews, etc). Pretty suspicious.

It never happened, but it sure gets a lot of talk about NWD and Dave Watson going, though. Now everyone will want to run out and see NWD. Me, I'm not going to bother. Real or not, it's a stupid stunt and I'll make a point of avoiding NWD4.

Kn.

[Islandrider]

Originally posted by KenN
My honest opinion? I think it's all a ruse anyhow. The jump never happened. All we have is a lot of buzz and a single photo that was probably photoshopped. Not a bit of news on any major news net, nothing on OLN, nothing on any cycling site (Velonews, etc). Pretty suspicious.

It never happened, but it sure gets a lot of talk about NWD and Dave Watson going, though. Now everyone will want to run out and see NWD. Me, I'm not going to bother. Real or not, it's a stupid stunt and I'll make a point of avoiding NWD4.

Kn.


Dude he did do the road gap. Dave was there at whistler gravity fest and was talking about it. The pic may not be real but he did jump the tour de france.

[KenN]

Of COURSE he was talking about it!! He's in on the whole faked promotion!

I stand by my convictions, though. If he didn't do it but it's part of a promo, he's an idiot. If he really did it, he's a selfish idiot.

Kn.

[scottvelez]

Puts others at risk to advance himself... yea, he's a real hero.

[Oldfart]

It was on the Velonews site. I saw a pic posted somewhere and it showed him over about 10 riders, not behind the group as was stated other places.

[BURKE PHANTOMS]

Can you guys just start a bash Watson thread as that seems to be the underlying topic of this thread. :o

[m33p]

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[TokSik]

Originally posted by m33p
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Watson's soooooooo lame.
Discuss...

[BURKE PHANTOMS]

:o :o :o

[white ri0t]

Originally posted by LivingLegacy
Have you seen how close the crowds come to the riders? You cannot even see the road ahead. They have to drive cars and honk the horns like mad to get them to move. It wasn't Lance riding to close, it was fans too close.



Lance had two lanes to work with. if you watch, he swung from one side of the road to the other, then really close to the crowd. it was his fault. I watched the crash about 10 times.