Rear Wheel thoughts

[Zaskar]

My rear wheel is just about pooched. It's a 32h 26" Doubletrack on XT hub with bolt on axle. I'm thinking I will get another Doubletrack since it is cheap and has lasted me a fairly long time. I'm wondering what hub I should get. I'm not a fan of the engagement on the XT. Is there another hub that is reasonably priced which gives me better engagement? I can live with it if the upgrade cost is alot, the Hadleys are bling and chris kings are just not even an option.

Also I was thinking of upgrading my cassette while I was at it. I have an 11/34 LX cassette and I'm looking at something like a road cassette. any suggestions on gearing? I've got a 34 tooth standard ring up front.

Thanks
Cam.


PS. if any of you have a Hadley hub for sale post here.

[Scarface]

whats engagement..
inshane has wheels for sale

[Leifless]

Originally posted by Scarface
whats engagement..


thats how quick the ratchet catches on the splines inside the freehub body. more splines = faster engagement

[VancouverIslguy]

somebody in another thread explained it, backpedal and than pedal forward...depending on your hub there should be a slight space of time from when you start turning the cranks and you feel the chain work...I think that's it

[BAC5.2]

yea, it's the dead pedal time.

To give a feeling, A Chris King hub has a 72 click rotation. That is INSANELY fast ratcheting. Most hubs are ~55 - 60 clicks. You CAN feel the difference.

If you want Zero engagement, get a Stealth. I am considering one of these, but I have heard terrible things.

[switch]

Originally posted by BAC5.2
yea, it's the dead pedal time.

To give a feeling, A Chris King hub has a 72 click rotation. That is INSANELY fast ratcheting. Most hubs are ~55 - 60 clicks. You CAN feel the difference.

Aren't XT hubs a lot less, like every 20 degrees (or 18 clicks)?

[m33p]

Originally posted by switch
Aren't XT hubs a lot less, like every 20 degrees (or 18 clicks)? I was thinking that too, closer to 12-15, cant member exact number.

[BAC5.2]

Not positive on the XT engage time.

I know that White Industries hubs are 60 clicks, King's are 72, and that there are alot of 55 and lower hubs.

I have never ridden an XT hub, so I couldn't give a guesstimate. 18 clicks seems insanely low, but it might be right.

Alls I know is that the KING hubs are where it's at. So are the Stealth Hubs (if you want to go silent and zero engagement). I am seriously considering a Stealth hub.

[switch]

Originally posted by m33p
I was thinking that too, closer to 12-15, cant member exact number.

Go to bed, youngin'... :D

[BAC5.2]

hey, it's 6:15 and I havent even gone to bed yet....

[switch]

Originally posted by BAC5.2
hey, it's 6:15 and I havent even gone to bed yet....

You should work in the software industry - you have the perfect sleeping habits for it. :D

[BAC5.2]

that's what 5 days of staying up until 5am at the beach will do to you...

[Zaskar]

:lol: grad parties have totally destroyed my sleep schedule too man. i wake up at like 1pm and go to bed at 4.

how much money are white industries?

[Zaskar]

210$ for a Disc Jockey Rear Hub.

they look pimp, but are they worth it?
am i gonna notice a big improvement over my XT which costs like 50$ or somethin lol

[BAC5.2]

the White not only is as bullet proof as a KING, and is almost as smooth as far as ratcheting, but it sounds like a fucking machine!

It will roll faster, be easier to work on, and will click faster than an XT will. It'll outlast the XT as well because White Industries = quality shit. If you can't get a Hadley or a KING, White Industries is the next best thing.

Each hub is hand polished, to give you an idea of how good the quality is.

[Zaskar]

it looks like i'm getting a front hadley 20mm for 60$ :)

buttttt....
im seriously diggen the White Industries. I'm gonna look more in to it :)

[BAC5.2]

I say go for the white industries. The rear hubs are sick and second to KING's. They ratchet nicely and smoothly, and DAMN are they loud. KING's sould like weed wackers, WI's sound like a fucking machine that makes weed wackers. They are louder and will scare animals and small to medium sized children.

[dhrider]

Originally posted by BAC5.2
will scare animals and small to medium sized children.

lol sounds good to me:D

but if you have hope discs, get the hope dh hub, i have it and ive never ridden anything like it, its the nicest sounding hub ive heard and its so buttery smooth it makes me spooge:eek:

[BAC5.2]

What do the hope hubs sound like?

[dhrider]

liiiiiiike a hope hub lol, like 27386487234 clicks and they sound like a ratchet been spinned around really really fast but sound even better:thepimp:

[Zaskar]

yea i run hayes. my friend has hobe dh hubs on his dare.

they are insane. you spin the wheel and it sounds like a racket turned gattling gun.

[Monster Mike]

hadleys sound sick too.

[crazyguy]

Originally posted by BAC5.2
Most hubs are ~55 - 60 clicks. You CAN feel the difference.

i dont think thats right the ringle abbah hub is considered pretty quick engagment and it only has 36 i shoudl have a hadley in a week on my new yeti dh 9( :thepimp: ) and ill tell you how it is

[C.C.]

Chris King= 72 points of engagement. Buzz like a hornet and fun as heck to ride with at Whistler. Can be quite pricey though. Some deals can be had from certain stores...especially if you get the full wheel built up.

Best high quality hub for the money would have to be Hadley. 36 teeth and fast engagement at 10 degrees. I think they've got the bolt on option too.

Sun Ringle apparently makes a high quality, quick engaging hub too. Don't know too much about it.

Brands like Atom Lab aren't really worth it IMO. They look durable, but at around 20 degrees between engagement, it's no faster than Shimano XT and cost way more.

[coolie]

shimano, non-silent clutch, 16 clicks
SRAM 9.0SL, 18 clicks
hadley, 32 clicks

shimano silent clutch is a cheap fast engagement option. it's faster than regular shimano clutches, but some trials riders complain it's not as reliable. it also has a somewhat mushy feel. i have one on my commuter bike and it's great cause it makes my bike silent.

inventing a fast engagement freehub body that bolts onto shimano hubs would make you a very rich man... if you could get by the patents.

[WingerDinger]

ive got the blue bolt on hadely on the team shore and it clicks so much. its rad :thepimp:

[VooDoo]

regular hubs are from 12-18... hadley and hopes are 32 (pretty sure) and CK's are 72.... stealth are instant (clutch)...
You can EASILY feel the difference between a CK and a regular hub... i rode my ck for 2 weeks then my other bike... so much of a difference... i love my CK...