Cranky Whistler Kid Rant

[mp_rider]

I am dissapointed that nobody here rides DH at ALL! out of our high school, I think I am the only kid here that actualy loves the sport of DH. The 10 kids that do ride are to busy riding skate park, dirt jumping, or building "one hit wonders" in the woods. I do not want to ride alone as I want to ride trails outside of the whistler bike park most of the time(ie. RDS). HECK, RIDE YOUR BIKES MORE KIDS!!!!

[DaveM]

let me get this straight....you live in the best biking resort in the world and you're complaining.....

Oh Max, you've got it soooooo bad :D

[mp_rider]

I'm just saying that I live in the best resort in the world and I'm the only kid here that rides.
It sucks not having anyone to ride with, and in my opinion riding should be part social.

[GeoffG]

I'm just saying that I live in the best resort in the world and I'm the only kid here that rides.
It sucks not having anyone to ride with, and in my opinion riding should be part social.

You would be surprised at who you can meet on the lifts. There's been a few times that I have been riding by myself (Which I don't like BTW) and I have just talked to people on the lift. Guaranteed you will find someone who will invite you along for a rip with them.

[Cooper]

You would be surprised at who you can meet on the lifts. There's been a few times that I have been riding by myself (Which I don't like BTW) and I have just talked to people on the lift. Guaranteed you will find someone who will invite you along for a rip with them.

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[KevinBike]

biking by myself is fun

[J-Kwon]

its not just whistler. it's everywhere.

[skimtb1]

You would be surprised at who you can meet on the lifts. There's been a few times that I have been riding by myself (Which I don't like BTW) and I have just talked to people on the lift. Guaranteed you will find someone who will invite you along for a rip with them.

yeah but then you have to be riding the park. i'm pretty sure there are others places to ride in that valley...

[enduramil]

yeah but then you have to be riding the park. i'm pretty sure there are others places to ride in that valley...

Yes there are. I know it's shocking that the bike park is not the centre of the Whistler Mountain biking universe.

[Buzom]

it sucks but what kid can afford a DH bike...

[kperras]

Ha! Get used to it. You're more than likely to experience that to a certain degree for the rest of your riding career. Wayy to many kids and adults are into dj and gravity assist riding. Barely anyone appreciates the broadness of the sport anymore, which means riding it all! I dislike riding by myself and find that the best rides are with others. Unfortunately it doesn't happen as often as I'd like.

[bowen rocks]

i'll come up and ride with you max

[Lady Gravity]

yeah but then you have to be riding the park. i'm pretty sure there are others places to ride in that valley...

definitely, and from what i've discovered so far, they are frigging awesome. however, you dont need a dh bike to ride them.

[enduramil]

definitely, and from what i've discovered so far, they are frigging awesome. however, you dont need a dh bike to ride them.

Yes, there are a large number of exellent trails. Glad to hear you are discovering them Make sure you hit Shit Happens and Big Kahuna before they get taken out by construction.

Lady G, alot of those trails have been around for over 20 years. Those where the one's I learned to ride on years ago.

Here's a pic from the vault, Green Lake loop circa 1993,

http://www.dropmachine.com/media/data/500/medium/Flow_Country_048.jpg

Which reminds me, is the Little Spearhead trail still around or is that gone now?

[Dropsonde]

get used to it. most people under 18 just want to impress their friends.

YO I GOTS A SUPER LOUD CASETTE WANNA HEAR IT
YO I GOTS A WHITE TIRE WANNA SEE IT

[Schleyer]

haha you have no friends

[mp_rider]

Yes, there are a large number of exellent trails. Glad to hear you are discovering them Make sure you hit Shit Happens and Big Kahuna before they get taken out by construction.

Lady G, alot of those trails have been around for over 20 years. Those where the one's I learned to ride on years ago.

Here's a pic from the vault, Green Lake loop circa 1993,

http://www.dropmachine.com/media/data/500/medium/Flow_Country_048.jpg

Which reminds me, is the Little Spearhead trail still around or is that gone now?

I dont think little spearhead is around anymore... but for any one willing to earn the descent, check out Billy Epic. And for Shit Happens and Big Kahuna, a ton of Shit Happens is already gone! lame. Big Kahuna is still fully intact though.

[FlipFantasia]

only the last bit of shit happens has been disturbed...the main line will remain, and we (worca) has already received monies from the rainbow deveopment that's gone into SH, AI, BK, and we met with the legacy land developers last week and expressed our expectation that they re-route/re-build the portion on their land that will be impacted by the development, and they fully agreed.....

[SEKTER13]

Good grief. In many places you would be hard pressed to find someone who rides pedal bikes at all... People can ride what they like.

[apeshape]

I'm just saying that I live in the best resort in the world and I'm the only kid here that rides.
It sucks not having anyone to ride with, and in my opinion riding should be part social.

That's a sad story. You are left all alone to ride one of the world's best bike parks alllll day alllll by yourself. That sucks! You poor...wait...I hate you.

[Lady Gravity]

only the last bit of shit happens has been disturbed...the main line will remain, and we (worca) has already received monies from the rainbow deveopment that's gone into SH, AI, BK, and we met with the legacy land developers last week and expressed our expectation that they re-route/re-build the portion on their land that will be impacted by the development, and they fully agreed.....

wow, nice. i wish all land developers were that accomodating.

[enduramil]

definitely, and from what i've discovered so far, they are frigging awesome. however, you dont need a dh bike to ride them.

Good to hear you met that skid Ian. He's one of Whistler's mountain bike originals.

Don't forget to check out the Emerald Forest trails down near the Bayshores. Oh, and can't forget the old classic Cut Yer Bars.

There used to be a guide book of Whistler trails don't know if they still print them. At one point they even made nice map of the trails in a nice Top map style.

[enduramil]

only the last bit of shit happens has been disturbed...the main line will remain, and we (worca) has already received monies from the rainbow deveopment that's gone into SH, AI, BK, and we met with the legacy land developers last week and expressed our expectation that they re-route/re-build the portion on their land that will be impacted by the development, and they fully agreed.....

That's the best news I have heard so far.

[enduramil]

I'm just saying that I live in the best resort in the world and I'm the only kid here that rides.
It sucks not having anyone to ride with, and in my opinion riding should be part social.

Reality is you can't force others to ride. They either love the sport or they don't.

Speaking from experience, I started riding the trails at 13 and spent 90% of it by myself. Sure I connected with people here and there. And most those I rode with where adults.

Looking back now, sure I wish I had a group to be with. But overall I'm glad that I did it by myself. I got to see parts of Whistler that most people didn't see. I've seen wolves, Deer, a Moose, both Black and Grizzlies, and numerous other animals.

Worry less about the kids and such who don't ride. Just go ride the trails of Whistler.

[Tuumbaq]

it sucks but what kid can afford a DH bike...

Is that a trivia question? Here's my guess, In Whistler I'd say 99.9% of the locals kids..Dude its Whistler !Do you have any idea how much it cost to be able to leave up there WITH KIDS???

A VERY large majority of them a rich kids or at least their parents are very comfortable financially...

I kinda like riding byself but its hard to improve like that but I think things are slowly changing and you 'll start to see a new trend with more young pinners in town.

[Tuumbaq]

Looking back now, sure I wish I had a group to be with. But overall I'm glad that I did it by myself. I got to see parts of Whistler that most people didn't see. I've seen wolves, Deer, a Moose, both Black and Grizzlies, and numerous other animals.
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You've seen Grizzlies and wolves on WHISTLER!!!:eek: How old are you 75? lol

Surely not in the bike park hey?I thought there was no grizzlies & wolves on that mountain anymore.

[enduramil]

You've seen Grizzlies and wolves on WHISTLER!!!:eek: How old are you 75? lol

Surely not in the bike park hey?I thought there was no grizzlies & wolves on that mountain anymore.

I'm 37. I'm old enough to remember when the Village was the garbage dump, Petro Can was Gulf, Patrolskid drove a VW Van, the school was across Village Way from the Conference centre, and the Keg was down in the Bayshores.

The Wolves I saw on the Valley Trail the first year it was open. It was on the section between Alpine and the Bayshores.

[Lady Gravity]

I'm 37. I'm old enough to remember when the Village was the garbage dump, Petro Can was Gulf, Patrolskid drove a VW Van, the school was across Village Way from the Conference centre, and the Keg was down in the Bayshores.

hey me too - i was there when they were building the first big hotel, there was a big mess of gravel, and my dad said "this'll never fly" :rolleyes: boy was he ever wrong

[enduramil]

hey me too - i was there when they were building the first big hotel, there was a big mess of gravel, and my dad said "this'll never fly" :rolleyes: boy was he ever wrong

When my dad bought our place in the 70's out in Emerald I thought it was way too long a drive. Looking back now, he was brilliant, we are no where near the village silliness.

And was riding Shit Happens and Big Kahuna years later 60 seconds out my front door.

Oh, and before I forget. I'm old enough to recall watching Whistler's first ever World Cup type race. The 1979 Super G which was won by Ken Read. Back when hay bales where considered advanced safety systems.

[Cooper]

haha you have no friends

hahahahaha

Max, it's not that kids don't like riding DH, it's just that mots of them don't know what they have and how lucky they are to live in Whistler. If any of those 10 kids who ride left town for 2 weeks, they'll be stoked to be riding ANYTHING. You know, not everyone feels up to 2 hours of DH right after school, especially when the park is only open til 5:30. I do it some days, but usually a lot of us want to just take it easy and have a chill sesh at the djs or skatepark. On an early dismissal or weekend, you can bet all of those kids will be up on the hill riding DH.

[patrolskid]

ok tuumbaq , i'm calling you out on this one . . . . because you obviously have the wrong impression about who actually lives here .

a great number of folks who live here and are raising families , are folks who are in the service / tourism business . are you familiar with the wages those types of jobs pay ? not the type of wages that support DH bikes , let alone DH bike racing for the kids . i'm not saying there aren't some ( very ) rich people who have places here , and some of them do live here , but generally , the people and place is not that different from say , squamish .

MP rider , i think i understand the point of this thread , but instead of worrying about things you can't change , you should feel lucky that you have parents who can afford and are willing to make sacrifices so that you can participate in things like DH mountain bike racing , and alpine ski racing .

make your friends where you find them . i've met some interesting people from places i've never heard of here in the park , and while they may not turn out to be lasting , lifelong friends , they usually make good company for a couple of laps , and a beer afterwards .






















ps . no beer for you :lol:

[enduramil]

ok tuumbaq , i'm calling you out on this one . . . . because you obviously have the wrong impression about who actually lives here .

a great number of folks who live here and are raising families , are folks who are in the service / tourism business . are you familiar with the wages those types of jobs pay ? not the type of wages that support DH bikes , let alone DH bike racing for the kids . i'm not saying there aren't some ( very ) rich people who have places here , and some of them do live here , but generally , the people and place is not that different from say , squamish .

MP rider , i think i understand the point of this thread , but instead of worrying about things you can't change , you should feel lucky that you have parents who can afford and are willing to make sacrifices so that you can participate in things like DH mountain bike racing , and alpine ski racing .

make your friends where you find them . i've met some interesting people from places i've never heard of here in the park , and while they may not turn out to be lasting , lifelong friends , they usually make good company for a couple of laps , and a beer afterwards .



ps . no beer for you :lol:


Skid is right with what he said. And to add to what Skid says about the bike park. There are alot of people who go and live in Whistler who ride all the other trails in the valley. Because that's what the can afford and barely touch the bike park. Well not unless they do it the hard way via Khyber.

In the end it's not about where you ride in Whistler or whether you ride a dually or a HT. All that matters is that you ride your bike and enjoy the trails that the entire valley has to offer.

[racingsessions]

I am dissapointed that nobody here rides DH at ALL! out of our high school, I think I am the only kid here that actualy loves the sport of DH. The 10 kids that do ride are to busy riding skate park, dirt jumping, or building "one hit wonders" in the woods. I do not want to ride alone as I want to ride trails outside of the whistler bike park most of the time(ie. RDS). HECK, RIDE YOUR BIKES MORE KIDS!!!!

im in grade 12 and into DH only really... and big mountain FR

[racingsessions]

I am dissapointed that nobody here rides DH at ALL! out of our high school, I think I am the only kid here that actualy loves the sport of DH. The 10 kids that do ride are to busy riding skate park, dirt jumping, or building "one hit wonders" in the woods. I do not want to ride alone as I want to ride trails outside of the whistler bike park most of the time(ie. RDS). HECK, RIDE YOUR BIKES MORE KIDS!!!!

wait is this Max?? cause this is Aziz

[Cooper]

wait is this Max?? cause this is Aziz

yeah its him

[MyLes]

its not just whistler. it's everywhere.

so true

[49-cent]

ok tuumbaq , i'm calling you out on this one . . . . because you obviously have the wrong impression about who actually lives here .


Too right! I can barely keep my own head above water when it comes to riding the park. I can't even imagine what it'll be like to raise kids here! Skateboarding here we come!

[Midas]

This is the best thread ever. And no, I'm not being a sarcastic dick, this topic is being touched on alot recently everywhere... like honestly what is up with all the dj riding?

[strahan]

big mtn will rise again.

[JasonM...]

i will ride down a hill with u when i am in whistler

[mp_rider]

I do realize how lucky i am to live in such an amazing place and to have parents that support me(i am not on my own for bike finances now though). I take advatage of what I have, I try to ride every day! I am just surprised that there are not many (sorry cooper, but there are not many kids that take advantage of the park) that use this wonderful thing they have. Skid, its not many parents can afford to support a kid with a DH bike. But the average teenager definatley could afford it if they worked hard enough. I think cooper has bought all of his riding gear for this season with his own money. Two full bikes...... dang :( no beer for me!

[K-Loops Rider]

I dont believe people dont ride who live in whis......10 kids from your school ride???

EVERYONE in kamloops rides....

[mp_rider]

Just adding, I had a sick sesh at the dual slalom today. Tristan Merrick and Rebbeca McQueen showed up! then a bunch of cool english men!

[bowen rocks]

rampage is gonna make younglings want to ride their big bikes..... always count on rampage

and also max i am sure there are ppl who could ride with you, but your just too damn fast :D

[Cooper]

I think cooper has bought all of his riding gear for this season with his own money. Two full bikes...... dang :( no beer for me!

haha yeah, I paid for my DH bike and my hardtail. And I definately take advantage dude, trust me. I was injured all last year and it made me realize even more what I have to play with! I broke even on my pass a LONG time ago, its not like i dont ride hahaha. I love it all.

[LeeLau]

little spearhead is still there.

[big_perm]

big mtn will rise again.....in 2015

[J0SH]

Just adding, I had a sick sesh at the dual slalom today. Tristan Merrick and Rebbeca McQueen showed up! then a bunch of cool english men!

All English men, who ride are cool (except chavs, but most of you won't understand that anyway).

Edit: I'm lucky, my parents are not to hard up, so they can help me out. A good trick is to show them videos of trails you do, and they will put more money into keeping your bike working properly :)

[FlipFantasia]

don't hate on max, he just wants other folk to shred with....I completely get where he's coming from...not hating on the scene, just wanting more people to shred dh laps with....not such a bad thing....

[racingsessions]

I do realize how lucky i am to live in such an amazing place and to have parents that support me(i am not on my own for bike finances now though). I take advatage of what I have, I try to ride every day! I am just surprised that there are not many (sorry cooper, but there are not many kids that take advantage of the park) that use this wonderful thing they have. Skid, its not many parents can afford to support a kid with a DH bike. But the average teenager definatley could afford it if they worked hard enough. I think cooper has bought all of his riding gear for this season with his own money. Two full bikes...... dang :( no beer for me!
i spent so much just to get up there the 30 times i went this summer

[DARTHYOGA]

I just read the last bit of this thread so ignore this if its been mentioned.
Joining a club or going to traildays is a great way to meet people to ride with. Getting involved in the community will introduce you to other poeple just like you and you can make some great friends out of it.
I see what you mean though and whish you luck finding buddies to shred with. It is way more fun to shred with friends.

[enduramil]

little spearhead is still there.


Good to hear. I'll have to dig through my archives and see if I have any pic's from that.

[FlipFantasia]

re. little spearhead....with the building of the W/B IPP though I'd imagine that's closed down pretty tight these days....

[enduramil]

re. little spearhead....with the building of the W/B IPP though I'd imagine that's closed down pretty tight these days....

IPP?

[patrolskid]

i just drove a rhino up there the other day . they are using the blackcomb side for access to the IPP site so it is a full on active service road with heavy equipment . there is construction happening right at the creek crossing , but there is room to get around .

[FlipFantasia]

IPP?

Independant Power Project....they're building a hydro plant on Fitz creek, will power all of W/B.......

[FlipFantasia]

i just drove a rhino up there the other day . they are using the blackcomb side for access to the IPP site so it is a full on active service road with heavy equipment . there is construction happening right at the creek crossing , but there is room to get around .

sorry for the non-hello cruise by on the valley trail last night ian! kinda realized as I was past that it was you, that's awesome taking the dog along in the trailer!

[enduramil]

Independant Power Project....they're building a hydro plant on Fitz creek, will power all of W/B.......

How far up? All the way up to the Singing Pass lot?

[LeeLau]

its closer to the Slump

[enduramil]

its closer to the Slump

So it's further up the creek then.

[patrolskid]

thought that was you blazin' along there flip .

my contacts at the muni did that work i requested making things wider and safer through that section .

that's how hector gets to work .