Help with cable dirt tram mover

[bigredpig]

We are doing a project this fall where we might need to move dirt or gravel up a hill onto a trail.
I know I have seen pics in the past of a cable setup like a clothesline that buckets can be run up the hill and then emptied at each point that it crosses the trail.

I did a search and didn't have any luck finding pics of this type of set up.

What we are thinking of is a cable and pulley setup that we can run a few buckets at a time up the hill, probably 200 meters straight up an incline.

What I am looking for help with is:
- what kind of cable should you use
- was your setup powered? Chainsaw motor? Human powered?
- lower pulley station anchoring
- how are the buckets attached to the cable
- anything else we should know

Thanks,
Russ

[heckler]

I know the guy you need to reply. Give it a couple days.

[bigredpig]

Thanks, not in a hurry as the project is set for Oct/November.

[Tom P]

can you not source materials above the trail and let gravity do the work? I'm gonna guess that you can't because that would be the obvious choice.

I would be tempted to use static climbing rope instead of cable, but neither option will be cheap.

Find a climber or someone trained in rope rescue (SAR etc) to help you out with rigging up the pulley system. It's not overly complicated, but there are easy and hard ways to do it.

[Tom P]

probably 200 meters straight up an incline.

200m is a really long distance for a pulley system. That is a third of the distance up the Chief in Squamish!! The sag in the cable/rope alone will have it dragging on the ground unless you rig it in the tree tops.

To put it in perspective, Grapple yarders yard around 175m and the lines can drag on the ground from sag, and thats with a 18m grapple tower.

[bigredpig]

Sorry, I dunno what I was thinking by saying 200m... the coffee hadn't kicked in. I would say it will probably be 200 ft at most... more likely 150 at most.

We are building a jump trail, that will be mainly machine built.

We can get capping material delivered to the bottom of the trail at the road it ends at.

Just trying to think of efficient options to get material up the hill vs wheelbarrows.

Thanks for any feedback.

[synchro]

rent a gas powered wheelbarrow like this

http://www.sharecost.ca/construction_tools.html#wheelbgas

[dragonbones]

Is this for the dump? "Capping material" sounds suspiciously similar to the style of armouring I've seen on berms around that area. Fixing Sofa? A rebuild? Do tell...

[bigredpig]

Yup, it's for the Dump...

We have a proposal in for a Crank it Up style trail... we have flagged it and proposed a route over by Snakes. CRD is pretty receptive to it and we should be able to get a machine in their in the fall to rough it out. This is a rough estimate of where it will be:
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u240/bigredruss/Torpedo_Trail_New_Line.jpg

[Bryce]

- was your setup powered? Chainsaw motor? Human powered?

As I recall, the guys working around camp brick hooked it up to the back of their truck