View Full Version : Gear Change, DH to singletrack
Skidmark
01-12-2008, 03:26 PM
I have been given an amazing gift, a free 4 day riding trip to the Chilcotins this August. We'll be staying at a ranch and riding lots of epic singletrack. While I would love to have a lightweight zippy trail bike to enjoy this opportunity, I'm too poor to buy a new ride. So I've got to try to figure out some budget friendly gear swaps to convert my old clunker of a bike.
I've got an 04 Norco Shore with a Super T fork. The wheels are nothing special but they do have heavy DH tires on them. I figure I can get the biggest bang for my buck by putting on a single crown air fork, some light weight rims, and lighter tires. I don't know if there's an air shock that would fit the frame's stock Vanilla RC, but if I could find one that's another couple pounds for the better.
So I'm looking for suggestions on the fork, rims, tires, and if anyone knows an air shock that fits, that'd be cool too. Preferably stuff that can be found used for reasonable prices.
Heathen
01-12-2008, 05:30 PM
Your rear hub is 150x12 is it not? if so it is going to be hard to a light wheel set. Most light wheel sets are going to be 135x10 for the rear, a 20mm front wheel that is light will be easy to find. I think that fork you have weights in at 8 pounds for 7" travel. You could switch to a newer 7" fork that weights in at 7 pounds saving you a pound.
How much are you looking to spend over all?
walleater
01-12-2008, 05:48 PM
Would it not be better to just borrow / hire a hardtail for a few days? The trails I've ridden in the Chilcotins don't warrant rear suspension. The guide who was there was riding a singlespeed hardtail. I was sort of guiding / helping out and I loved riding my Dialled 853 Prince Albert there.
DUDEONABIKE
01-12-2008, 11:23 PM
you could find a hardtail for around 12-1500 bucks in the buy and sale, it would probably be cheaper than swaping out fork wheels tires and shock.
J-Kwon
01-12-2008, 11:59 PM
don't bother with a hardtail it really isn't worth spending 1500bux on a bike you will probably not use again(if not go for it).
I'd invest in new wheelsets, fork, gear
seek hope pro2 12x150hub, they're ridiculously light. paired up with mavic 721, or syncros ds28(even ds23(stay away from ds25)). kevlar beaded 2.35 tire, you're set to go. and you get a pike(u-turn) or a lyric(u-turn) or even fox 36.
Try to get front gear if possible, with dual ring chainguide.
few lb's don't make a difference when you have proper gear for the riding.
It should be cheaper than a new hardtail.
shirk
01-13-2008, 12:34 AM
By the time you drop a bunch of coin on wheels fork and tires you could have a good used bike off ebay or Pinkbike. Buy now it's the off season, prices are down. Also the Gear Swap is a good option for less expensive options.
stinkbat
01-13-2008, 01:23 AM
just buy a second hand bike and sell it when you are done, you will have a lot more fun.
freakonaleash
01-13-2008, 02:06 AM
If I was you I'd outfit your bike so it can do everything. Throw the monster away and get a 6" single crown fork. Get rid of the heavy dh tires and do what jkwon said get 235 nevegals w/kevlar beads, nice and light, i wouldnt be surprised if just the tires saved you a pound and a half. Maybe get some new rim hoops, say single track. Strong, pretty light, cheap.
.flow.
01-13-2008, 02:29 AM
i'll throw my vote in for getting a hard tail. spending that kind of money to make your shore "all mountain" seems like a waste to me. Hell, you might even discover that xc is fun. And besides 2 bikes > 1 bike.
You'd be surprised what a difference a set of tires can make.
Swapping out your tires for some lighter duty ones along with setting your Shore to the shorter travel position and dialing up the compression in your Super T would be the most cost effective solution to your issue.
TheGiggler
01-13-2008, 08:22 AM
wow ... you can really tell from this post who has rideen the chilco and who has no idea what it is ...
walleater nailed it ... go back up and re-read what he wrote.
a shore (no matter what build) is WAY over kill for the chilcotins ...
whatever ...
derwood
01-13-2008, 09:43 AM
i'll throw my vote in for getting a hard tail. spending that kind of money to make your shore "all mountain" seems like a waste to me. Hell, you might even discover that xc is fun. And besides 2 bikes > 1 bike.
I second this motion....with the money you would spend lightening up the Shore you can easily find a more than capable XC rig.
Once you have a bike like this,you'll be surprised how often you will opt to ride it over the Shore.
walleater
01-13-2008, 10:00 AM
Thanks TheGiggler. If anything even my hardtail which weighs about 33lb (2004 Z1FRs and the like on it) was OTT. Manus was ripping everyones legs off on his singlespeed. That's not to say that the trails aren't awesome...if you are missing the loam, you'll love the place.
J-Kwon
01-13-2008, 11:54 AM
or get an all mountain frames, if you don't mind norco, six frames(07,06) go for 399-499(that's not sale either).
CraigH
01-13-2008, 11:55 AM
wow ... you can really tell from this post who has rideen the chilco and who has no idea what it is ...
walleater nailed it ... go back up and re-read what he wrote.
a shore (no matter what build) is WAY over kill for the chilcotins ...
whatever ...
As everyone else said, what ever money you were going to use to replace parts on the Shore, invest it in a used XC/AM bike. You can always sell if for close to what you paid if you find you don't use it after the trip.
If you can't afford that, will a friend loan or rent you a suitable bike?
Unless you are getting helicopter or float plane shuttles, pushing a Shore up there will guarantee that you don't have much fun.
Pics from our 2005 trip are here:
http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=130605
Sample of the climbs and descents in the Chilcotin. Pic borrowed from Lee's site.
http://www.leelau.net/2006/taseko0706/lornaspruce290706/16lornadescentzm.jpg
shirk
01-13-2008, 03:51 PM
Actually I'd say those trails are begging for a steel 29er hardtail.
Bryce
01-14-2008, 03:22 PM
for the most part, a HT would rip. On some of the rougher climbs or longer traverses you'd have an advantage with a light xc-FS bike
biggles604
01-14-2008, 03:59 PM
I don't think anyone on this board is capable of reading and comprehending. I do agree that getting an AM bike would be a good compliment to what he has, and that he would probably end up riding it more than his shore (Which has a 135x12 saint rear axle, just to clarify), he did state that he can't afford it, which means borrowing a bike, or making it lighter on the cheap.
Tyres would be the best bet for lighter pedalling, but I am sure that if you put a call out to the board to borrow/rent an XC/AM bike for a few days, someone will be accommodating.
TheGiggler
01-14-2008, 04:04 PM
all i know is that i took my 6" bike to that area i would be regretting it the entire time ... i'd rather ride a hardtail out there than a bike with like 4+" of rear travel ...
onepunch
01-14-2008, 04:06 PM
SHAMELSS PLUGG
http://buysell.nsmb.com/showproduct.php/product/13188/cat/all
Lady Gravity
01-14-2008, 05:05 PM
SHAMELSS PLUGG
http://buysell.nsmb.com/showproduct.php/product/13188/cat/all
that's a really nice bike, but from the sounds of it i'd say the OP is looking to spend a lot less than $1400
shirk
01-14-2008, 05:43 PM
A savy shopper can build a wicked fun reliable ht for $700 total.
He mentione getting a new fork plus light kevlar tires, I'd suggest scraping up more moeny and getting the second bike.
Zion steel frame and pre built Ryhno Lites from Jenson, a fork from NSSS, some crank and brakes from overtime. Tioga 2.35 Dh from MEC. I havn't looked but I figure X5 shifters and derailers can be found cheap.
onepunch
01-14-2008, 06:46 PM
that's a really nice bike, but from the sounds of it i'd say the OP is looking to spend a lot less than $1400
Ur likely right so voila. this is a beauty for the $$
http://buysell.nsmb.com/showproduct.php/product/14182/cat/12
something newer:
http://buysell.nsmb.com/showproduct.php/product/13463/cat/12
Heathen
01-15-2008, 09:53 PM
So we posted up so help for your question, what do you think? I would buy that Surly HT, that is a killer deal.
switch
01-16-2008, 03:04 AM
You'd be surprised what a difference a set of tires can make.
Swapping out your tires for some lighter duty ones along with setting your Shore to the shorter travel position and dialing up the compression in your Super T would be the most cost effective solution to your issue.Yes.
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