Helmets-what are you wearing?

[Ozibatla]

Aswell as breaking my arm last week I also knocked myself out pretty good. Im well into double digits for concussions over the years and at 32 I wanna keep as many of my remaining brain cells that I can. Time for a new Helmet.
Whats everyone wearing on their heads? TLD, Giro what?
Advantages/Disadvantages.
Value for money.
etc.

Hit me with it.

Marcus.

[J-Kwon]

Giro Remedy Carbon is pretty good for the price.
you can take the socket out and run it in the washing machine. I've tried them on before, found them to be abit on the heavy side. Not to mention its MASSIVE in porpertion. But Overall, It is a very safe Helmet.
I can't comment on the TLDs, but the new 08 Peaty edition looks SICK!

[Cammm]

iv had my tld for for a year and a half. crash really hard 2 or 3 times , broke 2 visors and i still havnt got a concussion. so thats my 2 cents. same with my buddy he crashed super hard got bucked off a jump fell like 10 feet on his head . walked away un harmed exept a couple gashes in his tld. id recemend tld.

[tFly]

I'm rockin the 08 TLD Peaty edition for this season, should be here in a little over a week. I'm coming from a remedy carbon, nothing but good things to say about it, 08 graphics looked pretty cool. Both helmets fit really well (med in the remedy, med/large in the tld). The deciding factor was price and I managed to find the tld for a couple bucks less than the giro.

[danielb]

Giro Remedy

[coverider18]

giro remedy > everything else

[J-Kwon]

I'm rockin the 08 TLD Peaty edition for this season, should be here in a little over a week. I'm coming from a remedy carbon, nothing but good things to say about it, 08 graphics looked pretty cool. Both helmets fit really well (med in the remedy, med/large in the tld). The deciding factor was price and I managed to find the tld for a couple bucks less than the giro.
I do like the 08 peaty, and the flame. but the other one w/ the eye ball? wtf were they thinking

[Spaz]

I use the Bell Bellistic helmet. Fits me great and you can usually get one for under $100. I have had no issues with mine and I don't really want to find out how it performs in a crash.

[Ozibatla]

Where's some good bike shops with a solid range?

Oh yeah thanks for your help so far.

[FlipSide]

Moto helmet!!! Some super-cheap ones may be on the heavy side, but there are many that are quite reasonably priced and are light enough so that it doesn't bother you at all.

I have a HJC that is super comfortable.

[K-Loops Rider]

Remedy and Flak is what i got. There fantastic.

[Kossinnd]

I have a sixsixone striker helmet. its not bad but i havent really had a chance to wear anything else :)

[KaledenStinky]

tld much nicer than giro, but i went from a mad max 2 to a tld sooooooo.

[fattirerider]

Tld are the best. I tried on the remedy and it felt like the pading was thin and generaly uncomfy. The tld d2 is perfect and it feels like its giving you head a hug. Worth the money!

[Air Supplier]

Giro Remedy Carbon is pretty good for the price.
you can take the socket out and run it in the washing machine. I've tried them on before, found them to be abit on the heavy side. Not to mention its MASSIVE in porpertion. But Overall, It is a very safe Helmet.


I agree... its kept me very safe and its light and cheap!

[Dantes Inferno]

Fit is over loots with helmets. If that happens to be a bell then you gotta wear a bell.

My helmet is a Azonic Fury, before it was popular. Got it for $80 and it looks pretty good I think. Ive smashed my head lots and its still working. But I keep things past their experation date.

[Nelson]

giro mad max carbon > giro remedy > everything else

Fixed ;)

I prefer my mad max carbon over my carbon remedy and all the other helmets I've owned...

[Nelson]

I agree... its kept me very safe and its light and cheap!

Since when is $320 for a helmet cheap?

[coverider18]

Fixed ;)

I prefer my mad max carbon over my carbon remedy and all the other helmets I've owned...


thank you for correcting me, i forgot all about the carbon

[Air Supplier]

well I carbon TLD is about $550 and a non carbon one is still $350... its only about $80 more than the composite rememdy anyways

[zahgurim]

lol, who the hell would pay retail for a Troy Lee.... ouch.

I rock either a TL carbon D2 or a Giro Xen, depending on how hard, and where, I'm going that day.
The venting on the D2 sucks, but it's a safe lid. And I didn't like the D-rings on the strap, so I changed them out for a buckle.

[ESHER SHORE]

i tried on Troy Lee's new "Phobia" MX helmet in Summit in Whistler and that thing was dope

perfect fit, like a glove, but crazy sticker price $$$ even here in the UK at trade ouch!!

so gonna get a Giro Remedy Carbon, that fitted sweet when i tried it on, medium was perfect size, nice and light and vented, and higher level of protection than the MTB helmet standard requires

also liked the Specialized Deviant but can't get one to fit, medium is too tight and large is massive, the chin guard looks sketch once your wearing it :(

[Timmigrant]

If you've had concussions in the double digits with bike helmets its time to step up to a DOT approved Moto helmet. I had a nasty concussion in a TLD D2 last year and decided the extra weight and bulk of the Moto helmet was worth the added protection. So I went out and bought a Troy Lee SE2 Phobia. The Troy Lee helmets are SUPER comfy to wear, more comfortable than my D2, and not warmer to wear. There are cheap DOT helmets available such as Zox helmets if you don't want to spend alot of money. 661 makes a nice light Moto helmet called the Flight, I'd look into that. Check out either GA Check Point in Port Moody or Richmond Motor Sports.

As far as bike helmets are concerned I use a TLD D2 when riding at lower speeds. They're by far the most comfortable bike helmets IMO, are light, and look fantastic. The Giro Remedy's have great reviews and are the first bike helmet to pass the Gravity Helmet Standard. However they don't offer the protection of the moto helmet.

[Air Supplier]

ya but moto helmets are crazy expensive too... a 661 carbon moto helmet is about $600-$700 bucks!!!!

[Timmigrant]

ya but moto helmets are crazy expensive too... a 661 carbon moto helmet is about $600-$700 bucks!!!!

Ahhh .... no. First of all there is no such thing as a 661 carbon moto helmet. The "carbon" bike helmets are usually a composite structural shell with a layer of cosmetic carbon, both the TLD Carbon and the Remedy Carbon are made this way, the carbon is mainly for show and offers a slight weight savings. All moto helmets I know of are a composite shell (with carbon usually in the composite). No moto helmets that I know of have have a cosmetic carbon option.

The high end Six Six One moto helmet is $299 on their site and $350 in the Norco catalogue I believe. Richmond Motor Sports had some I think they were in the $300 range. That Flight helmet is a reasonable weight, offers great protection, and looks nice too I think. A Zox DOT helmet can be had from GA Check Point in Port Moody for around $150 I believe. Phone around and see what you can find.

[seand]

ya but moto helmets are crazy expensive too... a 661 carbon moto helmet is about $600-$700 bucks!!!!

It comes down to how much you value your ability to think and reason.

[Ozibatla]

If you've had concussions in the double digits with bike helmets its time to step up to a DOT approved Moto helmet.

Only three times with helmets, the rest from other activities.....footy(aussie rules), skiing, etc. But yeah definately need more protection.

[Aeropusher]

It comes down to how much you value your ability to think and reason.

not sure who said it, if it was the guys from Bell, or Bill Simpson (of Simpson Racing products...the same guy who put on a "new" nomex driving suit and lit it on fire to prove a point to the guys racing at indy who were still in cotton jumpsuits)but....."if you've got a $5 head, then go ahead and wear a $5 helmet"

[mattj]

I'm wearing a DOT-approved Fulmer Rockstar helmet. It saved me big-time on a minor crash that would have had huge consequences if I wasn't properly protected. It's $125 at North Shore Bike Shop.


-m

[big ben]

I'd never pay more than $150 USD for a helmet, they get abused and replaced too often for me to justify buying a TLD. I'm perfectly happy with my Fox Tracer Pro DOT/Snell moto lid that I paid $140 USD for.

[notasslowasu]

"if you've got a $5 head, then go ahead and wear a $5 helmet"

That sums it up! The 2 things you cant fix are your head and your back, protect them both.

[Air Supplier]

Fit is over loots with helmets. If that happens to be a bell then you gotta wear a bell.

My helmet is a Azonic Fury, before it was popular. Got it for $80 and it looks pretty good I think. Ive smashed my head lots and its still working. But I keep things past their experation date.

ya I had it for one week and hated how few vents there were... I mean there are no vents and instead of wire near the mouth peice... its just foam so its hard to breathe

[smyrly]

How about going green with a bamboo number. Meets all european standards:
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/08/bamboo_crash_he.php

[M13]

Giro Remedy CF so far.

paid 330 new and it's gone through hell in whistler. 4 huge crashes (honestly should have changed it after first) Three major gashes to the carbon fiber itself and it's still protecting my head well (not as well as before). I'll probably try out a TLD to see what the big deal is next season, plus the remedies feel abit fat.(more meat for protection?)

[JJ 666]

If you're serious get something thats D.O.T. and Snell approved.. most mx helmets. M2R, HJC, and Fox all make reasonably priced** lightweight fullfaces.

[Lady Gravity]

How about going green with a bamboo number. Meets all european standards:
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/08/bamboo_crash_he.php

that would certainly spark a few conversations...
and wouldn't that convert to around $600Cdn? yikes

[schoenrock]

i have a tld d2 and a fox rampage.
for protection the rampage is huge on the padding department and i trust this more then the tld for protecting the head......but the tld has bling points and is a bit more comfortable.
overall the rampage receives more shore ride time.

[switch]

Advantages/Disadvantages.The helmet with the best protection is the one that fits properly and is worn all the time.

[The Ultimate Hack]

Tried the HJC moto helmet and while it fits great it has shite venting. Is there such a thing as a vented moto helmet in the sub 400 range with decent vents sold nearish to vancouver?

[Timmigrant]

Where are you going to be riding mostly with this helmet? While the moto helmets are not as well vented as the mountain bike helmets the TLD SE2 that I wear breathes very well. I only ride my DOT helmet in bike parks and as such never wearing it for more than a couple minutes at a time. While moving, and for short periods the DOT helmet doesn't feel any hotter than a TLD D2. Even though it has a visible lack of vents.

Ideally you'd have a DOT helmet for riding Whistler etc and a Giro Remedy / TLD D2 etc for riding on the Shore and other locations where you're moving slower. For this reason I ride my TLD D2 on the Shore. However a good couples buddies wear their DOT helmets on the Shore, and none of them have any complaints.

[Gyropractor]

Giro Remedy non-carbon can be had for less than 100$. I have it and its the best helmet I've had yet, it's got a cool paint job too. :P

[Dropsonde]

661

[Wayne P]

ya but moto helmets are crazy expensive too... a 661 carbon moto helmet is about $600-$700 bucks!!!!

For the value of your dollar a moto helmet is way more affordable than a mountain bike helmet. The best MTB helmet offers less protection than the cheapest moto helmet.

It kills me that people can complain about ventilation or lack of with full face helmets. Well, duh! Its part of the territory. Seriously, what did you expect? Why are you buying it? To protect your head. I don't trust a helmet with a bunch of vents.

[big ben]

For the value of your dollar a moto helmet is way more affordable than a mountain bike helmet. The best MTB helmet offers less protection than the cheapest moto helmet.

It kills me that people can complain about ventilation or lack of with full face helmets. Well, duh! Its part of the territory. Seriously, what did you expect? Why are you buying it? To protect your head. I don't trust a helmet with a bunch of vents.

Agreed 100%.

[marzoccinator]

Im probably wrong, but i was under the impression that moto helmets are designed to absorb hits from much higher speeds, surely this would mean the foam would be more resistant to crumpling under low-speed hits and therefore not as good at protecting your head as a mtb helmet (because we travel at slower speeds)?

Anyway i have a Troylee d2 which i grabbed off ebay for 85 GBP, brand new. i just had a pretty big crash in it to the side of my head and its held up fine, whereas my last crash (albeit probably a little harsher) caved my azonic moto lid in causing me to buy the d2.

I personally think that so long as the helmet has passed certain tests showing it can hold up to the abuse that a certain discipline can dish out, such as dot or snell, then there is nothing else to be concerned about, so long as it fits properly and comfortably.

Just my view on things

[Desloc]

Love my Giro Mad Max. The Remedy will most likely be my next FF.

And the real reason moto helmet don't require vents is because their riders are lazy rednecks that don't break a sweat twistin' them there throttles .. well not counting their beer induced wifebeater pit stains :P

Des

[C.Lee]

i have giro mad max ff but... its totally crapped out now.. i need to replace it with new one.. but they are not bad.. except they could have had different sizings.. instead of having 2 sizes that are s-m, m-l. =/

and i have bell faction which i got recently.. its pretty good fitting is perfect and air vent, air flows through the vent really well superb i say.

[Wayne P]

Im probably wrong, but i was under the impression that moto helmets are designed to absorb hits from much higher speeds, surely this would mean the foam would be more resistant to crumpling under low-speed hits and therefore not as good at protecting your head as a mtb helmet (because we travel at slower speeds)?

I'm sure there's an element of truth to that, but you look at bike park riding and DH racing. It can be pretty easy to hit 60-70kms/hr on a lot of park trails. For riding on the shore, I think its way overkill.

[Sethimus]

d2 carbon, the d2 fits my head best

[the Master Plan Dan]

I have a Zen... a Full Face... that I never seem to wear anymore... DOT I think the name is... it is a Motto helmet... and I am looking to replace by bucket with a Pro-Tec B2 SVP... in Gloss White and Green.

Normally I am wearing the Zen or the Bell Bucket and the Bucket is getting pretty worn.

Anyone have any issues with the Pro-Tec?

Cheers!

[mr_fungle]

d2 carbon, the d2 fits my head best

Ditto.

[intheways]

Probably more than you want to know, but I just got a Dualsport MC and have been reading some articles on helmets. This one (http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/gearbox/motorcycle_helmet_review/) presents a debate of Snell vs DOT.

Having received yet another concussion while riding a skatepark, I've been reading a lot about concussions and how to best protect against them. From that article, I think that a DOT (non-Snell) helmet is the way to go. The thicker foam has more time to reduce the speed of your head and, thereby cushion your brain.

my $0.02

[Carbuncle]

I just got a Giro Remedy a couple of months ago and for fit, value and ventilation it wins over the other two I've had. I still have my Bell Bellistic as a backup and it isn't bad, just hot and fits a little funny. Previously I had a cheap ATV helmet that was hot as a sauna but saved my head from more hard hits while I was getting started with freeriding and DH and the like than I can remember. I only got rid of that because the pad buttons rusted and fell out from my caustic, radioactive sweat. I also have a shit-kicked Pryme BMX/skate helmet that's met cement with my head in it several times and always done the job, and a new Giro Havoc for XC that is the best XC-type helmet I've ever owned (in 16 years of riding).

[rowdy01]

...... Seriously, what did you expect? Why are you buying it? To protect your head. I don't trust a helmet with a bunch of vents.

Ahhhhh.....they`re called "speed holes" ya know.


and the argument that a 5 dollar head wears a 5 dollar helmet is only true to a certain point. at some point you stop paying for protection and start paying for the name/glam (coff coff...tld...coff). but hey, it`s your money, and they are nice.

[marzoccinator]

I'm sure there's an element of truth to that, but you look at bike park riding and DH racing. It can be pretty easy to hit 60-70kms/hr on a lot of park trails. For riding on the shore, I think its way overkill.

true i agree with you on that side. i omitted that from my post probably because i was just thinking of British riding over here, most of our trails are tight, techy with some fast open sections. Unlike whistler and other bike parks which look hella fast and fun.

[aShogunNamedMarcus]

."if you've got a $5 head, then go ahead and wear a $5 helmet"

That was the "zero dollar helmet, zero dollar brain" comment for people who dont even use a helmet.

06 TLD D2 Razor for myself. I figured my Mad Max II had suffered enough and was structurally unsound.

[woodlotrider]

I'd never pay more than $150 USD for a helmet, they get abused and replaced too often for me to justify buying a TLD. I'm perfectly happy with my Fox Tracer Pro DOT/Snell moto lid that I paid $140 USD for.

I agree with you, especially considering helmets are designed as single-use. But, just thought I'd point out that some manufacturers will replace a helmet after a crash for a nominal fee. I think Bell and Giro do this.

[ESHER SHORE]

vents in moto helmets are smaller and lesser in number as the DOT test requires a much stronger shell than for MTB helmets, and the higher riding speeds on a moto-x bike means alot more air is pumped into the moto helmet, keeping it ventilated

I recently was using a KBC Xenon Super-Moto helmet for freeride, and it was not at all hot in whistler as the higher speeds kept it ventilated, it had a dual vent cooling system with a rear exhaust port and an intricate cooling system on top of the liner with all kinds of air channels, mesh and coolmax lining

however, a day riding Mt. Seymour's trails on the North Shore with the much slower riding speeds, turned it into a brain-boiler!

not as hot as the cheap Fox Tracer Moto-X helmet i had a couple of years back, but close...

currently looking to get a Giro Remedy

[wezz0]

Azonic Fury..Fits really well, comfy, well ventilated. cost like what ... 60 bucks lol

[edc]

THE one carbon,
and a MX KBC helmet for hucking

[CraigH]

But, just thought I'd point out that some manufacturers will replace a helmet after a crash for a nominal fee. I think Bell and Giro do this.

I replaced a couple of old Bell FF helmets about a month ago with that program.

[trail worker]

Giro Switchblade, circa 1999.
I'm not joking...anyone who has ridden with me can verify it :lol:

[lukkk]

protec classic :thepimp:

[XXX_er]

Love my Giro Mad Max. The Remedy will most likely be my next FF.

And the real reason moto helmet don't require vents is because their riders are lazy rednecks that don't break a sweat twistin' them there throttles .. well not counting their beer induced wifebeater pit stains :P

Des

Actualy 45 minute world cup moto's were found to be as strenous as world cup soccer and they do or did 2 of them a day


get a helmet that you LIKE that fits ,the helmet you don't use is ... useless


I had really good luck clearing out full coverge helmets to parents for X-mas presants with the line "think of this 100$ as an insurance policy for the 6k you spent on little johnnies orthadontics "

[JasonM...]

well, im currently using a madmax 2, works great, i've taken a few hard hits with it over the years i've had it, especially this year, went headfirst into a tree at decent speed, walked away with only a sore neck and a big rip in my pants